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Hey Tanker, as a Mets fan, what hurts more?... Watching the Phils win the Series, or the Yanks? :P

The Phillies, by far.

Im used to the Yankees winning so its old hat.

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I'm happy for Nick Swisher, it ends there.

At least us Reds fans still have our title as the last NL team to win back to back titles, but nobody outside of Cincinnati is even aware of that so it's not that big of a deal.

also, lamest, most boring post world series victory celebration I've ever seen. Jorge Posada and Derek Jeter acted exactly like they've been there before. That isn't a bad thing, I prefer it to the alternative, but the rest of 'em...yawn.

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Waited nine years to see them win again. I'm lucky having seen them win seven times in my lifetime. My dad who was a Brooklyn Dodgers then a Mets fan has only seen the team he roots for win three times. Every title is is always sweet to see. I'm happy, now time to recharge and go for 28.

Not sure how it feels to see multiple championships, since in my 32 years I can only remember one. I just know that nothing, not even if they won it this year, would ever top the feeling of being in the middle of the city celebrating with seemingly hundreds of thousands of fans, and then the parade, which drew over 2 million people. Of course I want to see them win more, but at the same time, the fact that they may not just makes last season even more special, and that's kind of cool in a weird way. I'm not going to lie - I'm probably not as disappointed as I should be right now. Don't get me wrong - I was pulling for them as hard as I could, but I just don't feel the hurt that I probably would have if they had failed last year.

I also don't get how "fans" of these teams in middle America that don't have any ties to the cities or teams can be "so excited" about this. Nothing can compare to the feeling of all the energy in a city where seemingly everyone is united and pulling for the team (and the subsequent party), and where you have all the media coverage and hoopla.

There is definitely something to be said for being in the thick of it in the city when it happens. Having been born and raised in New York and with my family still being there I still have many ties to New York. Still even have the accent to go with it. I order the Extra Innings package every year just to watch Yankees games. I'll say times like this make me a bit homesick. Wish I could be at the parade on Friday but I went to the 96, 98, 99 and 00 parades so I can live with it. I've also seen my share of embarrassments in pinstripes as well.

This series could have gone either way. Came down to pitching and timely hitting. Pettite, Burnett in game two and Rivera were the lynchpins along with capitalizing on Phillie mistakes. On the Phillies side Cliff Lee was masterful in game one. Unfortunately he couldn't pitch every game. Pedro pitched well in game two but not so much tonight. Hamels needs to figure things out. He had a terrible season and his WS performance was lacking and Utley was just out of this world good.

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Now I feel the same about the Yankees as everyone else who isn't a Yankees fan, but this "buying" a World Series title talk has gotta stop. We all know that if our teams had the same ability to do what the Yankees do we'd be stoked. Can't hate on the Yanks for doing all they can to win, even if it takes tossing all that change at players. The Yankees have built up their name and legacy throughout the years and have gained all of those fans because they have been smart enough to properly market themselves. I wish the A's would do half of what the Yankees do to build up their product. Despite your feelings towards them, it's hard to argue against the Yankees being one of the most successful brands in America, both on and off the field.

And even though the Yankees have the highest payroll in baseball you can't forget that there are FOUR players on their roster that just won their fifth ring. And all four guys are also first ballot hall of famers (some will argue this, but I can't see how) who have been with the Yankees their entire career (cept Andy, but he was there when it counted). That's something no other baseball team in years can boast about. It shows that their scouting staff is phenomenal and that not all of the Yankees success is because they dumped barrels of money at guys.

BUT, with that said, let me get to the really important thing.

Congrats to Nick Swisher, my favorite player in baseball, for getting his first World Series ring. Here's hoping he get many more... AFTER he leaves the Yankees.

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So, not that it matters, and they still have plenty of years together to make more runs at this thing, but are the 2008 Phillies currently lumped in the same class as the 2005 White Sox, and 2006 Cardinals? Or does the fact that they at least made it back to the WS the following year elevate them into the next tier of good teams (i.e. not just one great year)?

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I assume this puts the Phillies into that next tier because, in a way, they aren't a one hit wonder like the '05 White Sox and the '06 Cards.

What's scary is that if they can keep all of that talent in Philadelphia, there will be more World Series appearances and possibly more World Series championships in the future.

BTW, congrats to the Yankees for winning... except for that traitor A-Fraud. May he burn in the 7th level of Robot Hell for leaving Seattle.

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Hey Tanker, as a Mets fan, what hurts more?... Watching the Phils win the Series, or the Yanks? :P

The Phillies, by far.

Im used to the Yankees winning so its old hat.

I disagree. Sure, I don't like the Phillies, but that's only because of how the 2007 and 2008 seasons turned out. Yes, Jimmy Rollins made his team-to-beat comment, and Cole Hamels called the Mets chokers. But they were both right. The Phillies were the team to beat in '07, and the Mets did choke big time.

My dad taught me to hate the Yankees ever since I started to watch baseball. And I've hated them even more since they started winning again in the 90s. I was a freshman in high school when the Yankees made the playoffs in 1995 and ever since then Yankee fans have given me a hard time for being a Mets fan. And many of these Yankee fans are bandwagoners who couldn't name a "pre-dynasty" Yankee if their lives depended on it. They don't remember George Steinbrenner getting banned for life (which sadly was reduced to 3 years) and the standing ovation that news brought at Yankee Stadium. And that's even if they realize Steinbrenner isn't just a character on Seinfeld. I know all teams have those front-running bandwagon fans but the Yankees (along with the Cowboys and Lakers) have more of them. And I'm surrounded by them here.

Now that the Yankees won, it will be plastered all over the tv, radio, and newspapers here until next April. And more "fans" will creep out of the woodwork. And I'll have to hear about "27 rings!" now whenever I wear my Mets hat.

I will never get used to the Yankees winning.

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i'm glad i'm not in new york right now, or anywhere near there at the moment, the re wanking of the yanks would be a tad insufferable at the moment.

I got the call from my folks in what can only be describe the absolute in yankee wankage.

i said, yeah greatest day of your life? i said grow the f'ck up and leave me and wife alone, i don't want to hear any more about your mastabatory love of the yankees. hung up the phone and drank my pina colata.

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God, the Yankees, their fans, and the media make me sick. All this talk about how "The Yankees waited nine long years to get back on top", like their fans are so tortured and hard-up for titles. Nine years?? BFD. It just makes me want to throw up.

Try being a fan of the Cubs (101 years), Indians (61), Giants (55), Rangers (Never)-- hell the Jays haven't even sniffed the postseason in 16 years.

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I assume this puts the Phillies into that next tier because, in a way, they aren't a one hit wonder like the '05 White Sox and the '06 Cards.

What's scary is that if they can keep all of that talent in Philadelphia, there will be more World Series appearances and possibly more World Series championships in the future.

The core of the team will be around for a while. Utley is signed up, Hamels, Howard, Victorino, Werth can't even become free agents for a while, Rollins is under contract. Lee is here at least through next year - hopefully they can convince him to sign before FA, though he has said that he wants to test the market.

This management has finally realized that they're one of the teams for which money is not a concern, and they can spend what they need to to keep guys around. Heck - they're paying >$20 M in salary to guys who aren't even on the team this year, just to make room for players that they really wanted. They are still paying for Jim Thome, Adam Eaton, and Geoff Jenkins. Next year they will likely eat $8M for Jamie Moyer too.

Weren't the 2006 Cards the same as the 2004 team? Two World Series appearances in 3 years wouldn't make you a one-hit wonder.

Totally forgot about that team. I guess the difference is that

1) they lost first, and then won second. I think a lot of people probably don't start to take notice until after you win. Not saying that it's valid, just that it's how it is.

2) That season is remembered for the Red Sox winning it all. Whoever they beat in the WS was irrelevant, and just became a footnote in history. The story was the Red Sox. Again, not saying it's right, just how it is.

Objectively speaking, they are not a one-hit-wonder. Unfortunately, I don't think anyone remembers 2004.

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