TheOldRoman Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 They're busy doing all of that - but is it because they really need to, or because they're just poor delegators, or because they're just trying to act like they're all managerial and in control of everything? Honestly, your post represents what is wrong with America. There's certainly leadership skills and sports knowledge that's required to be a good coach, but jeezus - let's not put them on the same level as brain surgeons or CEOs or anything. It's coaching football. You can make absolutely horrible decisions, but get bailed out if your player is just faster than the other team's player. It's kind of funny how some of these guys walk around acting like they're managers in a business, when many of them have no real-world experience in anything besides telling big sweaty meaty guys to hit the other team's big sweaty meaty guys harder, and "LEAVE IT ALL ON THE FIELD!".They aren't brain surgeons, but they make a lot more money than brain surgeons. While they aren't providing the same benefit to society, they do have a lot of pressure on them to win. The game is about putting 11 guys in the right spots for each play. While it's not brain surgery, it can be extremely complex. If they think putting in an extra hour studying their opponent's defense will help them win, they will do so. Football is about strategy much more than any other sport. You can get by soley on having talented players in college and in lower conferences, but the talent level at the top of BCS conferences and in the NFL isn't drastically different among the teams, and you need good strategy in order to win. I mean, look at Ron Zook's career. He was able to pull-in top talent, but because he was a terrible coach, he was fired from two jobs. I'm not saying coaches should work 20 hour days, but you are, once again, marginalizing something with hyperbole. It's not exactly like hitting "simulate game" on PS3, and if it were, coaches wouldn't be paid millions of dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I kind of want to say something, but it would venture into the "dfwabel has become more of a downer than BBTV" and stray from the "Paterno/PSU is a creepy, horrible thing."Just say it, I really do not care. If this Penn State case concerning 'state action' destroys the NCAA, I would appreciate what those at Penn State did. Most of us would agree that the NCAA system is broken. Any cause which could impact the NCAA's oversight I am in favor of, especially if it involves 'state action'.Then you have a seriously messed up sense of priorities. PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I kind of want to say something, but it would venture into the "dfwabel has become more of a downer than BBTV" and stray from the "Paterno/PSU is a creepy, horrible thing."Just say it, I really do not care. If this Penn State case concerning 'state action' destroys the NCAA, I would appreciate what those at Penn State did. Most of us would agree that the NCAA system is broken. Any cause which could impact the NCAA's oversight I am in favor of, especially if it involves 'state action'.Then you have a seriously messed up sense of priorities.Well since the NCAA already won the first case regarding them not being state actors I wouldn't bet on them losing the second. Not with the conservative court that's in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared41 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 You are not a judge or even a constitutional law attorney.Way to go, you've just destroyed message boards. Now the only posts we can have will be GFB on sports logos and Mings on architecture.I run a mean cash register. If a convenience store thread ever pops up, I've got it covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sodboy13 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 You are not a judge or even a constitutional law attorney.Way to go, you've just destroyed message boards. Now the only posts we can have will be GFB on sports logos and Mings on architecture.I run a mean cash register. If a convenience store thread ever pops up, I've got it covered.I'm gonna start a radio thread so you and I can have our own little pants party. On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Problem is, I don't trust the Universities themselves to handle these affairs. If anything, the Paterno case offers ample proof of that to this day.I have been a vocal critic of the NCAA at times, but there are some things that really ought to be handled by a centralized body.What you'd probably see happen is something similar to what happened in English Soccer a couple of decades ago. The major schools would break away and set up their own governing association to provide a fig leaf of non-profitness. On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 Well, the Premer League clubs didn't really break away from the Football Association, since their new league was part of, and run by, the FA. I don't know. You could be right about the big schools (I would say big conferences more likely) creating their own association. And in any case, I don't trust a single school to govern itself. The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I think it would be the right thing for the power conferences to split off and operate among themselves, actually. Like I said in the college-v-NFL thread, it's silly and a bit unacceptable that college teams spend half their seasons playing against Boxcar State or whoever else is either de jure ineligible to compete for a national championship (D1A) or merely de facto (mid-majors), which makes the games kind of pointless. You would think that college fans would love a college football season where every game really does matter (they claim they do now with the whole one-loss-and-your-season-is-over conceit, but those games tend to matter only for one team), but apparently everyone really gets off on beating up small directional-state schools with small fractions of their own recruiting/operational budgets. ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Could you imagine how f'ed up the NFL would be if wins and losses didn't matter, the playoffs were done away with, and writers and coaches got to vote on plays for the Lombardi Trophy? It would Be Dallas/Green Bay vs. New England/Pittsburgh every friggin year! What I love about the NFL is that eventhough there are still powerhouses and dynasties, entering each season EVERY TEAM HAS A CHANCE. (unless you're the Browns, of course. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkJourney Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Could you imagine how f'ed up the NFL would be if wins and losses didn't matter, the playoffs were done away with, and writers and coaches got to vote on plays for the Lombardi Trophy? It would Be Dallas/Green Bay vs. New England/Pittsburgh every friggin year! What I love about the NFL is that even though there are still powerhouses and dynasties, entering each season EVERY TEAM HAS A CHANCE. (unless you're the Browns, of course. )Let ESPN vote on it and would be the New York Jets 24/7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Could you imagine how f'ed up the NFL would be if wins and losses didn't matter, the playoffs were done away with, and writers and coaches got to vote on plays for the Lombardi Trophy? It would Be Dallas/Green Bay vs. New England/Pittsburgh every friggin year! What I love about the NFL is that even though there are still powerhouses and dynasties, entering each season EVERY TEAM HAS A CHANCE. (unless you're the Browns, of course. )Let ESPN vote on it and would be the New York Jets 24/7 If ESPN were voting, Super Bowl 47 would feature Tim Tebow vs. Mark Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Get this beauty from the PSU student bookstore while it lasts: Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Really? The school actually let their ignorant little punk students create something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 they did something we don't like so despite having nothing to do with the state controlling the means of production they're a bunch of COMMUNISTSgeez mom you're like HITLER ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Really? The school actually let their ignorant little punk students create something like that?Yeah. Have you ever set foot in a student bookstore at a major state school before? On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Wait, so PSU is allowing a shirt that bashes the NCAA to be sold in their school run book store? If it was an independent store, than that's one thing, but the official, school run book store? That's like getting your ass kicked by Mike Tyson and still talking s**t while you're lying on the ground bleeding as he walks away. At first I was mostly indifferent to all of this, but with PSU getting a really tame punishment and STILL appealing it, and now this, I really hope the NCAA drops the hammer (and sikcle) on Penn State's head. On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanB06 Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 It's an independent store.Still tasteless, but not university-sanctioned. Sodboy13 said: As you watch more basketball, you will learn to appreciate the difference between "defense" and "couldn't find the rim with a pair of bloodhounds and a Garmin." meet the new page, not the same as the old page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 See what I mean about Penn State still not "getting it"? At least if they got the death penalty, we wouldn't be subjected to this defiant crap in the national media because there'd be no football games to broadcast and talk about. POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 See what I mean about Penn State still not "getting it"? At least if they got the death penalty, we wouldn't be subjected to this defiant crap in the national media because there'd be no football games to broadcast and talk about.You know nothing Jon Snow. "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CS85 Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 If Joe Paterno is like Craster, who is Sandusky? Ramsay Bolton? Quote "You are nothing more than a small cancer on this message board. You are not entertaining, you are a complete joke." twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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