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First time I've seen Boston in action with the black socks. When I first heard I thought it'd be great, but I realize now how wrong I was!

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11 minutes ago, Morgo said:

 

Looks like it, which is rather perplexing since the team has won nothing.

Y’know, confuse the fans by telling them “Hey, we have championships we never won on our uniforms, we’re definitely that team that went bankrupt almost 100 years ago!”

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They're celebrating the history of Ottawa hockey. No one with half a brain cell thinks it's the same Ottawa Senators. I hate when teams monkey around with history, this is just honoring an old team with a one off jersey. The whole event is a celebration of the league's 100 years. 

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57 minutes ago, twi said:

No one with half a brain cell thinks it's the same Ottawa Senators.

 

Why are so many people clamoring for a full-time heritage look then?  The recent promotion of the =O= just comes off as a pathetic attempt to siphon the success of the silver-seven or worse; an admission that current incarnation of the Senators won't ever win a championship.

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2 hours ago, Morgo said:

 

Why are so many people clamoring for a full-time heritage look then?  The recent promotion of the =O= just comes off as a pathetic attempt to siphon the success of the silver-seven or worse; an admission that current incarnation of the Senators won't ever win a championship.

I think its because Ottawa had a decent uniform/identity at their debut and has only gone progressively downhill since then. People just want a change and the =O= is an easy thing to gravitate to.

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3 hours ago, Morgo said:

 

Why are so many people clamoring for a full-time heritage look then?  The recent promotion of the =O= just comes off as a pathetic attempt to siphon the success of the silver-seven or worse; an admission that current incarnation of the Senators won't ever win a championship.

I don't speak for other people but I honestly really like the heritage look and I will be disappointed if the Senators new away jersey next season isn't the vintage white 2014 Heritage Classic jersey. I agree that the =O= is a boring logo but I love the look of it on the Heritage jerseys. It suits the jerseys so well and I honestly love the look of the red, black, and beige barberpole jerseys. 

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8 hours ago, Chromatic said:

I think its because Ottawa had a decent uniform/identity at their debut and has only gone progressively downhill since then. People just want a change and the =O= is an easy thing to gravitate to.

 

I agree but they could have done something really great.  The updated, 2D-centurion on a vintage-white-less heritage template would honor the entire history of Ottawa hockey and allow the =O= logo to do what works; serve as a shoulder patch.

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11 hours ago, Morgo said:

 

Why are so many people clamoring for a full-time heritage look then?  The recent promotion of the =O= just comes off as a pathetic attempt to siphon the success of the silver-seven or worse; an admission that current incarnation of the Senators won't ever win a championship.

People can want to embrace the heritage look without pretending the new Senators are the old Senators.

Nor do I see embracing the =O= as a sign that they're admitting that the current team will never win anything. That's honestly preposterous.

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Screenshot of a video the Sens posted on Twitter

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Looks like the heritage sans hem stripes. Based on the other teasers probably a red version with the silver O.

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2 hours ago, Ice_Cap said:

People can want to embrace the heritage look without pretending the new Senators are the old Senators.

Nor do I see embracing the =O= as a sign that they're admitting that the current team will never win anything. That's honestly preposterous.


How is it preposterous?  The current team has used a centurion for 25+ plus years, which is longer than the original team was even around for, and they're throwing their history away to use a double stroked, Times-New-Roman "O" for no other reason than to siphon the success of a team that hasn't been around in over 80 years.  Seems like admission of failure to me.

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13 minutes ago, Morgo said:


How is it preposterous?  The current team has used a centurion for 25+ plus years, which is longer than the original team was even around for, and they're throwing their history away to use a double stroked, Times-New-Roman "O" for no other reason than to siphon the success of a team that hasn't been around in over 80 years.  Seems like admission of failure to me.

Some changes can be just about aesthetics and popularity, not every change has anything to do with sucess. The current 3D logo (and the 1999-07 version for that matter) hasn't been popular in Ottawa for a while.

And the original team was around for 50 years with the barber pole debuting in 1896 and a version of the O logo first appearing in 1900, so that point doesn't stand either.

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16 hours ago, Morgo said:

 

Why are so many people clamoring for a full-time heritage look then?  The recent promotion of the =O= just comes off as a pathetic attempt to siphon the success of the silver-seven or worse; an admission that current incarnation of the Senators won't ever win a championship.

I don't know, people like it?

 

For the record that change would be taking a poor identity and dropping it to 31st in the league by a large margin. Simply not a strong enough mark or look to build an identity around. 

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We're all ignoring what the Sens should really have done:

 

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Put the current block font on these guys, resurrect the updated 2D centurion, and there you go!

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2 hours ago, njdevs7 said:

This is a perfectly good look for Ottawa and better than the =O=

 

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Agreed. This is the best any Senators team ever looked in my book.

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3 hours ago, Morgo said:

How is it preposterous? 

Teams change logos all the time. It's a matter of branding. Not a lack of confidence in the team's abilities.

 

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The current team has used a centurion for 25+ plus years, which is longer than the original team was even around for...

Well that's just incorrect. The original Senators were around for 52 years. 51 of those years in Ottawa.

 

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...and they're throwing their history away to use a double stroked, Times-New-Roman "O" for no other reason than to siphon the success of a team that hasn't been around in over 80 years.  Seems like admission of failure to me.

How? I'm really not seeing it at all. If you want to prefer the Centurion to the =O=? Cool. The team choosing to downplay one over the other doesn't seem like an admission of anything, however.

It's either a matter of personal aesthetic preference on the part of management or said management has data that suggests that the =O= is more popular among the fanbase than the Centurion. Either way it's branding. Nothing more or less.

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3 hours ago, Ice_Cap said:

Well that's just incorrect. The original Senators were around for 52 years. 51 of those years in Ottawa.

 

Well, they were an NHL team from 1917 to 1934 and didn't use the "O" until 1929.  Essentially the "O" was used as a crest for a whopping 4 seasons.

 

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It's either a matter of personal aesthetic preference on the part of management or said management has data that suggests that the =O= is more popular among the fanbase than the Centurion. Either way it's branding. Nothing more or less.


Maybe it is preferred by the fan-base but how anyone can say this jersey...

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...is aesthetically better than the one below is beyond my comprehension. 
 

6 hours ago, njdevs7 said:

 

 

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