MJWalker45 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, TBGKon said: Yeah, I looked at the AT&T center in San Antonio and it’s not made for full time hockey. It’s built primarily for basketball and has a hockey setup like Barclays in Brooklyn. It has much better sightlines than Barclays and the equipment for full time hockey. The biggest problem is getting the Spurs to share nicely with anyone. Realistically though, Houston will probably be the location the NHL wants over San Antonio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wings2 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Just move them to Vegas.....ah nevermind. In all seriousness, Houston's Toyota Center was built to house hockey. The AHL Aeros played there before relocating to Iowa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerslionspistonshabs Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 What about OKC? Newer arena, I know not ideal for hockey, but she's over 15,000. Or Kansas City. I'm pretty sure they built their arena with the hopes of luring a team. I mean I know the Scouts didn't work out, but that was over 40 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 13 hours ago, FiddySicks said: So, let’s see if I have this straight. The Coyotes, who used to be the the Winnipeg Jets, are going to move to Quebec and become the New Nordiques, because the Thrashers already beat them to the Punch and became the New Winnipeg Jets. What a goddamn mess. The NBA’s screwy history has NOTHING on this clown car of a league. At this advanced stage of the league's development too. Makes you appreciate MLB's fairly streamlined history, particularly since the modern era began in 1900. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosrs1 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 3 hours ago, BBTV said: Isn't the expansion fee what they're really after? They could make up some of that in a relocation fee, but since the purchaser would have to pay that on top of the purchase price (and I'm assuming that even a crappy-irrelevant team like the Coyotes is worth at least a few hundred mil) wouldn't that be a blocker to moving them rather than just having them play in a high-school rink? Seattle paid what - 600M or something like that? I have no idea what the 'yotes would sell for, but for it to make sense for the league, it'd probably have to be close to 1B USD - and does the Quebec group have that kind of money? Maybe... I don't know. Hell, contract the Yotes and then just expand immediately. Kinda like what MLS did when they killed Chivas and launched LAFC almost immediately after. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollux Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 There's unfortunately no way Meruelo will sell the Coyotes because the Sports Betting bill was passed by the governor and that's money he's after. He needs the Coyotes to be able to become a bookie. So no matter how much money the Coyotes lose, he's still making money elsewhere. The only possible way to move is if the board of governor forces him to sell, and that's a very slim possibility. Quote Four times IHL Nielson Cup Champions - Montréal Shamrocks (2008-2009 // 2009-2010 // 2012-2013 // 2014-2015) Five times TNFF Confederation Cup Champions - Yellowknife Eagles (2009 CC VI // 2010 CC VII // 2015 CC XII // 2017 CC XIV // 2018 CC XV) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 4 hours ago, GDAWG said: Look at this absolute cluster and try to tell me that this is a better situation then just having a well-supported team in Quebec City. 2 Quote PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilbert Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 16 hours ago, FiddySicks said: So, let’s see if I have this straight. The Coyotes, who used to be the the Winnipeg Jets, are going to move to Quebec and become the New Nordiques, because the Thrashers already beat them to the Punch and became the New Winnipeg Jets. What a goddamn mess. The NBA’s screwy history has NOTHING on this clown car of a league. I mean if they wanted to do the full circle the right thing for the Coyotes to do would be move to Atlanta Quote Signature intentionally left blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFGiants58 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dilbert said: I mean if they wanted to do the full circle the right thing for the Coyotes to do would be move to Atlanta Well, they could always become the Cleveland Barons Mk. II, for extra "Charlie going mad" potential. Quote MLB: Project 32 (Complete), MLB: The Defunct Saga (Complete) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 41 minutes ago, Dilbert said: I mean if they wanted to do the full circle the right thing for the Coyotes to do would be move to Atlanta Hmm...what Canadian prairie town would get them after Atlanta fails for a third time? Quote PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, IceCap said: Hmm...what Canadian prairie town would get them after Atlanta fails for a third time? Saskatoon? I mean the Blues aren't going anywhere, right? 3 Quote I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsfan1 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Edit: nvm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEAD! Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, habsfan1 said: Cole Harbour. Crosby can play for his hometown. Checks map... where on the prairies is Nova Scotia? Quote I saw, I came, I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 7 hours ago, bosrs1 said: Hell, contract the Yotes and then just expand immediately. Kinda like what MLS did when they killed Chivas and launched LAFC almost immediately after. They'd have to pay 'fair market value' to contract them. While that's probably still less than what they'd get in an expansion fee, a relo fee would probably net more. Quote "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 2011 would have been the time to do the contraction bit by folding the Thrashers and establishing the Jets as an expansion team. When you consider that 35% of what TNSE paid for the team went to the NHL as a "relocation fee" that the league had never seen fit to charge teams moving to the New South, it should have entitled them to a few picks from around the league, like when the 91-92 Stars were in on the expansion draft alongside the Sharks. (I think that was when they pretended to draft Guy Lafleur for nebulous paperwork reasons.) 1 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 8 hours ago, the admiral said: 2011 would have been the time to do the contraction bit by folding the Thrashers and establishing the Jets as an expansion team. When you consider that 35% of what TNSE paid for the team went to the NHL as a "relocation fee" that the league had never seen fit to charge teams moving to the New South, it should have entitled them to a few picks from around the league, like when the 91-92 Stars were in on the expansion draft alongside the Sharks. (I think that was when they pretended to draft Guy Lafleur for nebulous paperwork reasons.) As far as record books go, when it comes to teams that don't matter, dissolving them is cleaner than moving them. Dissolve the Thrashers, establish Jets 2.0, have an expansion draft where they can draft any Thrashers player or a non-protected player from any other team (but let teams protect more players than usual), then fill in any gaps with ex-Thrashers (and then let other teams draft whatever is left over.) I think that's similar to the "de-merger" of the Stars/Sharks. Doesn't solve a situation like Cleveland-Baltimore, but for teams that don't really matter like the Thrashers, Coyotes, TB Rays, etc. it solves some issues. Not sure what I would have done with the Bobcats/Hornets/Pelicans situation, but what ended up happening was the absolute worst of all options. Quote "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Admiral Posted August 22, 2021 Author Share Posted August 22, 2021 not my work 11 Quote ♫ oh yeah, board goes on, long after the thrill of postin' is gone ♫ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManillaToad Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 IT'S TIME 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDAWG Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (With the Oakland A's stadium situation likely ending one way or another soon) I wonder what happens first? The Coyotes getting a new venue or the Rays in MLB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kolob Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 On 8/22/2021 at 11:35 PM, GDAWG said: (With the Oakland A's stadium situation likely ending one way or another soon) I wonder what happens first? The Coyotes getting a new venue or the Rays in MLB? I feel like this needs to be added to the Vegas sportsbooks. Quote "I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific." Lily Tomlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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