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Uniwatch talked about this.  And now there's a bit of confusion for me...was the mask to be red or gray? The most commonly-seen photo shows red, but others show gray.  Looks like it was actually going to be gray.

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14836923/uni-watch-friday-flashback-why-san-francisco-49ers-1991-helmet-redesign-was-historic-failure

 

(EDIT: Looks like Johnnysama's post implies the same...maybe you all knew it was gray)

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24 minutes ago, OnWis97 said:

Uniwatch talked about this.  And now there's a bit of confusion for me...was the mask to be red or gray? The most commonly-seen photo shows red, but others show gray.  Looks like it was actually going to be gray.

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14836923/uni-watch-friday-flashback-why-san-francisco-49ers-1991-helmet-redesign-was-historic-failure

 

(EDIT: Looks like Johnnysama's post implies the same...maybe you all knew it was gray)

In the memo in that article that the NFL sent out with the style guide it says the facemask is to be red and that isn't reflected in the style guide. So red would be your answer. 

 

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sounds like it was rushed (looks like it too!) and that led to miscommunications about the facemask color. It's really fascinating how much has changed in uniform design between then and now and this logo disaster was probably a big part in shaping how teams go about designing new marks these days. 

 

and looking at the Niners now it seems like the 49ers fans have either gotten softer or dumber or both because I'd argue this logo is less of a uniform/logo atrocity than their alternate black uniforms. Those uniforms should've been met with the same outrage as the aborted logo. Maybe they were and this is just the world we live in now. It was too late for the team to go back. Or the Yorks are such tone deaf owners they don't care. Debartolo is one of the all-time great owners and was smart enough to listen to fans. In any case the landscape has been altered. That's for sure. 

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Don't forget that by the time the black alts were shown to the world, it was already too late not to use them. The league asks teams to commit their uniform schedule well in advance, and all the merchandise was in the pipeline.

 

That's how things have changed since 1991, and as we keep saying, not for the better.

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Yeah we'll know the answer to that if the 49ers are still wearing those heinous things this season. Anyone locked in on the Bay Area, what's the fanbase's overall feeling towards those uniforms?

 

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Pretty popular, judging by this photo.

 

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Judging by that photo, I'd say Timberwolves jerseys are also pretty popular. :D

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Huge violation on the T'Wolves jersey. Not only is it the wrong town, it's the wrong sport. If it were a Steph Curry jersey, that's fine. I'm not wearing my Seahawks jersey to a Phillies game.

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49 minutes ago, jmac11281 said:

Huge violation on the T'Wolves jersey. Not only is it the wrong town, it's the wrong sport. If it were a Steph Curry jersey, that's fine. I'm not wearing my Seahawks jersey to a Phillies game.

It's kinda the wrong town. I think they were playing the Vikes in that photo (See the John Randle jersey).  But yeah, rep the team and not the cross-town team in another sport.

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1 hour ago, OnWis97 said:

It's kinda the wrong town. I think they were playing the Vikes in that photo (See the John Randle jersey).  But yeah, rep the team and not the cross-town team in another sport.

Or just wear whatever you want.

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4 hours ago, McCarthy said:

Anyone locked in on the Bay Area, what's the fanbase's overall feeling towards those uniforms?

 

They can't seem to understand why the hell the Niners would want to look like their cross-bay rivals. But then they remember what you've already said, and reality sinks in even further. 

 

4 hours ago, McCarthy said:

The Yorks are such tone deaf owners they don't care. 

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On 2/24/2016 at 1:26 AM, Bucfan56 said:

BTW, I wonder if the same designer did the Niners, Eagles, and Bucs rebrands during that era. All three of those sets seem to follow the same basic logic (darker, more detail) when it comes to layout and color theory. 

Two of the three, the Niners and Bucs, were in fact done by the same guy(s): Osaki Creative Group, led by Kurt Osaki (who by the way is also a Cali guy by way of Hawai'i), and may explain ehy they look(ed) so similar to each other.  For what it's worth, he/they also did the Ravens (count the similarities there), Dolphins, and Jets. 

 

I remember reading some correspondence by Kurt Osaki wherein he mentioned his love of comic books, which probably explains some of his artistic style a good bit--especially with the Ravens and Buccaneers.

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3 hours ago, jmac11281 said:

Huge violation on the T'Wolves jersey. Not only is it the wrong town, it's the wrong sport. If it were a Steph Curry jersey, that's fine. I'm not wearing my Seahawks jersey to a Phillies game.

 

There's no "wrong town" or "wrong sport".

Many people suffer from the misconception that, by wearing a team's apparel, a fan is "supporting the team".  Wrong.  That person is supporting himself/herself.  When I wear gear from Chelsea or NYCFC or the Cosmos or the Nets, I am announcing something about myself, and just using those teams as a means to that end.

 

Likewise, I have hats that display the symbol and name of the language Esperanto (of which I am a fluent speaker), the symbol of my political ideology, the logo of favourite musical group, logos of various television shows, and symbols of other things in the culture.  As with hats or shirts with team logos, wearing this gear is about me.  (In the clearest possible case, I even have a hat with my name on it!)  And I will feel free to display these things about me wherever I go.  

It makes no difference if a fan is wearing gear of a team that is not in a game that that fan witnessing. You can turn on any Premier League match and see people in the stands who are wearing Yankee caps.

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Yeah, but in fairness most people in the UK think those caps are just "New York City", not any specific team. 

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On 2/23/2016 at 7:08 AM, Gothamite said:

Yes, good point.  Missed that one.

 

They reversed the pants stripes to match the new helmet stripes - red/white/red Braisher stripes replaced with thin black stripes surrounding a thick red stripe.  The only difference was the background.

 

Then when they introduced the gold pants they also put those tiny gold stripes between black and red.  After all that effort to match the various elements, suddenly the helmet stripes and pants stripes were off.  That one little detail always bothered me.

 

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Going off-topic briefly, another oddity here are the Lions in blue pants, only worn in 1998. What were they thinking on that one?

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I think the blue pants weren't so bad, but those gray socks were really stupid.  White socks with stripes that matched the jersey stripe would've gone a long way towards making the pants respectable.  Unnecessary, but respectable.

 

Of course, today they'd just were those blue pants with the same blue socks they were with the gray pants, and therefore look like complete idiots.

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They'll dust off the blue pants for color rush. The blue simply didn't work with Th silver helmet and white jersey. Can't articulate why, it just didn't. I'm fine with all three elements not matching, but it just doesn't work in this case. Maybe it would work if the blue was darker, but then it wouldn't be lions blue. 

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Both logos are garbage...  One was just used for a longer period time, hence was labelled "untouchable"

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The 49'ers one day logo I see as a merchandise tag of sorts for swag and things; especially in today's world of social media.  But the classic logo I think can use some major tweaking. It's not as big of a mistake as the black & red unis that they introduced I think during this season.

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I find it hard to believe that when I was younger I really liked the 49ers uniforms in the early 2000's. Once they brought out the Montana throwbacks several years later, everyone realized how much better it really was.

 

As for the black alternate, it's really stupid. If they want an alternate they should just wear the 1994 throwback. I love that look.

 

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