Red Comet Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 True XFL hasn’t been tried. This time we’ll have the REAL XFL work. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 I look at it as three separate leagues that just happened to use the XFL name were / will be attempted. The lack of success of the previous two has nothing to do with the third. 6 Quote "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 22 hours ago, BBTV said: I look at it as three separate leagues that just happened to use the XFL name were / will be attempted. The lack of success of the previous two has nothing to do with the third. Agreed, the first one was a trainwreck. 2nd one had promise, but thanks Covid. If 3rd iteration can have the same momentum as the 2nd it should have a fighters chance. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruhawk7975 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 5:13 PM, TBGKon said: Agreed, the first one was a trainwreck. 2nd one had promise, but thanks Covid. If 3rd iteration can have the same momentum as the 2nd it should have a fighters chance. I concur, I think XFL 2.0 was starting to make inroads and get start building solid fanbases (see the crowds at the games in STL, Seattle, Houston, and DC and how big, loud, and enthusiastic they were even after the first weeks) . Even as someone who lives in the NYC metro and with a crowded sports landscape, both in teams and of fans of varying teams, I noticed people actually talked about the XFL and were legitimately interested in it. I have seen people wearing NY Guardians shirts, and talked about going to games. That is not often the case with established MLS/WNBA/College Teams, let alone spring alternative football leagues. If they can return as many of the XFL 2.0 markets and teams as possible, devote the proper resources to starting up this league correctly and get decent broadcasting distribution like they did last time, I do believe they legitimately have a chance of carving out a space in the American sports calendar annually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/7/2021 at 11:34 AM, Skycast said: Hard to have any enthusiasm for something that's a year and a half away. Not to mention it's the third try for the XFL. And I don't see it succeeding the third time, either. Then it will have a fourth relaunch. And so on. If it succeeds, great. But I just don't ever seeing it work out. For all the faults the NFL has, it's also clear that people don't really want anything much different. If ratings of other football attempts are anything to go by. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 XFL 2.0 would be humming along through year two if it weren't for the pandemic. You're looking too pessimistically at that season. 6 Quote Athletic Director: KTU Blue Grassers Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 I still don't know why people are saying "relaunch". It's like saying the 99 Browns were a relaunch, or the new Sonics were a relaunch. They're new entities that just happen to share a name. Quote "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skycast Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 hours ago, BBTV said: I still don't know why people are saying "relaunch". It's like saying the 99 Browns were a relaunch, or the new Sonics were a relaunch. They're new entities that just happen to share a name. Because it is a relaunch. verb reintroduce or restart (something, especially a product). "he relaunched the paper as a tabloid" noun an instance of relaunching something. "a relaunch of the first Dior perfume" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManillaToad Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 4 hours ago, BBTV said: I still don't know why people are saying "relaunch". It's like saying the 99 Browns were a relaunch, or the new Sonics were a relaunch. They're new entities that just happen to share a name. wut? It's the same league now owned by a different group. They have the history, the record books, the trademarks and copyrights. What else is there that makes an entity an entity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 What do the new owners actually retain other than the ip? It's not like there's franchises, or players that are signed, or really any tie to the former league other than the name and logo. Maybe some tackling dummies or blocking sleds. They're basically starting from scratch, just with a pre-made logo. 2 Quote "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, BBTV said: What do the new owners actually retain other than the ip? It's not like there's franchises, or players that are signed, or really any tie to the former league other than the name and logo. Maybe some tackling dummies or blocking sleds. They're basically starting from scratch, just with a pre-made logo. This is the same as when the Arena League relaunched in 2010 after shutting down for a year. Their were new owners, but they also had the same cities, uniforms and rules that they had when shutting down in 2009. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arena_Football_League#Relaunch_and_rock_star_owners_(2010–2014) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 2 hours ago, BBTV said: What do the new owners actually retain other than the ip? It's not like there's franchises, or players that are signed, or really any tie to the former league other than the name and logo. Maybe some tackling dummies or blocking sleds. They're basically starting from scratch, just with a pre-made logo. The franchises still exist within the league. They basically took over everything from the 2020 league. It never ceased to exist. Just shut down, like every other league, and then sold to new owners. The only thing may be the players, and they're constantly changing anyway. If new players and new owners determined the continuity of leagues, then every league would be "new" constantly. Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, McCall said: The franchises still exist within the league. They basically took over everything from the 2020 league. It never ceased to exist. Just shut down, like every other league, and then sold to new owners. The only thing may be the players, and they're constantly changing anyway. If new players and new owners determined the continuity of leagues, then every league would be "new" constantly. but it's a single-entity league, so there are no franchises- or am I wrong about that? It was basically liquidated and reorganized as a brand new company. Kinda sorta how Toys R Us still exists but is totally different than the store we grew up with, just retains the name. Quote "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 Well that's the thing. If the XFL reactivates all of the teams from 2020 for 2023 then I'm ok calling it a "relaunch," even if all the personnel have changed. If the XFL 3.0 comes back with an entirely new slate of teams then it's not a relaunch. 2 Quote PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 6 hours ago, BBTV said: What do the new owners actually retain other than the ip? It's not like there's franchises, or players that are signed, or really any tie to the former league other than the name and logo. Maybe some tackling dummies or blocking sleds. They're basically starting from scratch, just with a pre-made logo. I tried to find details about what kind of XFL assets were actually sold without reading an entire court filing, and I saw that they still had nine employees while in bankruptcy. It's a tiny connective thread, but The Rock and his partners bought an actual business that was still paying employees. This isn't like dusting off USFL identities after 40 years. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schlim Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Didn't want to search for a two/three year old thread, but there's a new documentary coming out about the demise of the Alliance of American Football. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopard88 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 32 minutes ago, schlim said: Didn't want to search for a two/three year old thread, but there's a new documentary coming out about the demise of the Alliance of American Football. Will it be called "Really, Really Small Potatoes"? 2 Quote Most Liked Content of the Day -- February 15, 2017, August 21, 2017, August 22, 2017 ///// Proud Winner of the CCSLC Post of the Day Award -- April 8, 2008 Originator of the Upside Down Sarcasm Smilie -- November 1, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferdinand Cesarano Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 13 hours ago, schlim said: Didn't want to search for a two/three year old thread, but there's a new documentary coming out about the demise of the Alliance of American Football. Thanks for the information! It's on Amazon Prime, one of the few services on which I have an account. So I will definitely be watching this. However, I am off for the last three days of this week (including today) because the weather in New York has turned beautiful again. So I might not have time until next week. I trust that it will still be on the platform then. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonBull9584 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 On 8/11/2021 at 5:33 AM, schlim said: Didn't want to search for a two/three year old thread, but there's a new documentary coming out about the demise of the Alliance of American Football. The film is really bad. It only highlights the negatives and bad experiences that someone people had with the league. I worked for the Atlanta Legends and it was the best job I ever had! I have nothing but positive things to say about the AAF and tons of good memories! This documentary is dark, depressing, melancholy, and just sad. Not a single positive story, joke, or anecdote from anyone being interviewed. I'm extremely disappointed that I was not asked to interview, but I'd imagine that they would cut everything I'd say because I loved the AAF! I wish this were more like the USFL 30 for 30, but no, they decided to be somber about the AAF. Yes, there are people that had a bad time with the AAF, but I wish they would have sought out more people with good things to say. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 59 minutes ago, CrimsonBull9584 said: The film is really bad. It only highlights the negatives and bad experiences that someone people had with the league. I worked for the Atlanta Legends and it was the best job I ever had! I have nothing but positive things to say about the AAF and tons of good memories! This documentary is dark, depressing, melancholy, and just sad. Not a single positive story, joke, or anecdote from anyone being interviewed. I'm extremely disappointed that I was not asked to interview, but I'd imagine that they would cut everything I'd say because I loved the AAF! I wish this were more like the USFL 30 for 30, but no, they decided to be somber about the AAF. Yes, there are people that had a bad time with the AAF, but I wish they would have sought out more people with good things to say. Instantly dismissed your take when I saw your avi. The AAF sucked. SUCKED. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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