Gothamite Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 11 hours ago, tBBP said: I hope think by that they meant he is the team's first four- or five-year captain (which in itself is rather telling). I forget whether the four gold stars is for four years or five. The more egregious error is the "el capatain" tag...I mean, dude, the word you're looking for is "el capitan"--but, whatever...this club just keeps giving people reasons to laugh at it. i know what they meant. It’s still an incredibly stupid phrase to use. almost as stupid as a system that counts years as captain but then somehow stops at five. 3 The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Cleveland is not wearing their 75th season patch but do have the 1946 football patch on the back of the helmets. I'm a little surprised by that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisdog Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 On 9/11/2021 at 10:32 PM, Gothamite said: i know what they meant. It’s still an incredibly stupid phrase to use. almost as stupid as a system that counts years as captain but then somehow stops at five. I believe it is based on General Rankings in the military where 5 is the highest possible and is very rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, sisdog said: I believe it is based on General Rankings in the military where 5 is the highest possible and is very rare. Makes sense. Playing football is basically the same as being in the military. 8 "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjs11 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 7 hours ago, BBTV said: Makes sense. Playing football is basically the same as being in the military. Team "Captain" is a military rank. Makes sense that they'd reference military rankings when making the decision on how many stars to put on the patch. I don't think anyone at any point was insinuating that playing football is the same thing as being in the military. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, tjs11 said: Team "Captain" is a military rank. Makes sense that they'd reference military rankings when making the decision on how many stars to put on the patch. I don't think anyone at any point was insinuating that playing football is the same thing as being in the military. How is "football team captain" a military rank? Are hockey captains also a military rank? By doing what you're saying (mimicking a military rank with the stars and all) then the NFL is comparing playing football to being in the army. I suppose it fuels a certain part of the fanbase so whatev. 3 "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjs11 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Just now, BBTV said: How is "football team captain" a military rank? Are hockey captains also a military rank? Not what I said at all, really don't know how you got there. The same word is used for a military rank and the leaders of the team. I'm sure they worked backwards from that, read up on other military ranks, and justified their dumb system with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, tjs11 said: Team "Captain" is a military rank. Makes sense that they'd reference military rankings when making the decision on how many stars to put on the patch. I don't think anyone at any point was insinuating that playing football is the same thing as being in the military. There has never been a 5 star captain in the military. It’s a role not a rank in the nfl. And even then stars aren’t earned by number of years in, but by merit. The nfl just made a patch that had stars to indicate number of years they were captain once they ran out of stars on the patch they made it gold. There is no deeper meaning behind it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjs11 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, dont care said: There has never been a 5 star captain in the military. It’s a role not a rank in the nfl. And even then stars aren’t earned by number of years in, but by merit. The nfl just made a patch that had stars to indicate number of years they were captain once they ran out of stars on the patch they made it gold. There is no deeper meaning behind it I'm going off of what Sisdog said about it referencing 5 Star Generals. I have no clue what it actually is. I could see a world where they retroactively justified it by looking to military rankings but don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 On 9/13/2021 at 12:13 PM, sisdog said: I believe it is based on General Rankings in the military where 5 is the highest possible and is very rare. That would somehow manage to be even stupider, since all a player has to do to earn it is have a slightly longer-than-average career. Far from being rare, there are plenty of fifth-year captains. And not to mention that the fifth “star” is just filling the C in gold as well. I swear, this system is so dumb. It’s already walking the line of military fetish, they might as well just push it over. Just like the rest of their stolen valor nonsense mimicking ribbon bars. 9 The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 On 9/13/2021 at 11:13 AM, sisdog said: I believe it is based on General Rankings in the military where 5 is the highest possible and is very rare. When the NFL created the captains badges they said that 5 or more years would be in gold. It's not military based. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_team_captains The "C" patch Players who have been named a team captain typically wear a "C" patch on their jerseys. There is a standard design used by all teams participating in the captaincy program. The patches are in team colors and are worn on the front left or right breast (depending on other patches, etc. worn by the specific team). The number of gold stars on the patch represents the number of years that player has been named captain by a team. If he has been named captain for longer than four years, the "C" on the patch is gold. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 17 hours ago, BBTV said: How is "football team captain" a military rank? 17 hours ago, tjs11 said: Not what I said at all, really don't know how you got there. Well, I know how he got there: 17 hours ago, tjs11 said: Team "Captain" is a military rank. 14 Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshmaster101 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 guys only the military is allowed to have team captains sorry yall try again next time ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruhammydude Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 I expect these type of bickering's from my siblings, lol 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest23 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 14 hours ago, Meshmaster101 said: guys only the military is allowed to have team captains sorry yall try again next time ! Everyone is ignoring that civilian ship captains go back many centuries. In my opinion nfl captaincy better reflects maritime law than that of military rank. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, guest23 said: Everyone is ignoring that civilian ship captains go back many centuries. In my opinion nfl captaincy better reflects maritime law than that of military rank. Does that mean NFL captains can legally marry people? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest23 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Echo said: Does that mean NFL captains can legally marry people? Correct. Much like international waters and sea captains, their jurisdiction to officiate is limited to within the confines of nfl stadia where the nfl rulebook is the law of the land. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshmaster101 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 6 hours ago, guest23 said: Everyone is ignoring that civilian ship captains go back many centuries. In my opinion nfl captaincy better reflects maritime law than that of military rank. I swear, this system is so dumb. It’s already walking the line of sailing fetish, they might as well just push it over. Just like the rest of their stolen valor nonsense mimicking pirates and sail boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSmith48 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 1:01 PM, Gothamite said: That would somehow manage to be even stupider, since all a player has to do to earn it is have a slightly longer-than-average career. Far from being rare, there are plenty of fifth-year captains. And not to mention that the fifth “star” is just filling the C in gold as well. I swear, this system is so dumb. It’s already walking the line of military fetish, they might as well just push it over. Just like the rest of their stolen valor nonsense mimicking ribbon bars. Actually, that design wasn't exclusive to the military gear that year. A lot of the sideline gear used that bar design as well, outside of military appreciation. It was even used by a number of Nike's college teams 2 Visit my website at SSmith Designs (google.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothamite Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 10 hours ago, SSmith48 said: Actually, that design wasn't exclusive to the military gear that year. A lot of the sideline gear used that bar design as well, outside of military appreciation. And the patterns themselves were not created for that promotion but already existed. but when placed on the left side of the chest, in a military context, it’s hard to argue that they aren’t trying to mimic a ribbon bar. 8 The Green Bay Packers Uniform Database! Now in a handy blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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