tBBP Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, bowld said: This was taken from the Owner's meetings- Yellow definitely being used more than before--- Chiefs, Redski Commanders, Cardinals...eh, why not?? (I personally wish they'd use a little of that Arizona flag blue color, but oh well...) *Disclaimer: I am not an authoritative expert on stuff...I just do a lot of reading and research and keep in close connect with a bunch of people who are authoritative experts on stuff. || dribbble || Behance || Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8BW14 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 If the Cardinals really are using yellow in their new uniforms I think that’s a huge mistake. It’s like the Chiefs adding black trim or the Steelers adding red or blue to their uniforms. The Cardinals don’t need anything besides red and white. I don’t even think they need the black trim but I can live with that. Adding yellow would give the uniforms a very gimmicky/minor league feel IMO. I don’t know how to articulate how I feel other than to say it would be wrong and I don’t like it. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolingian Steamroller Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, 8BW14 said: If the Cardinals really are using yellow in their new uniforms I think that’s a huge mistake. It’s like the Chiefs adding black trim or the Steelers adding red or blue to their uniforms. The Cardinals don’t need anything besides red and white. I don’t even think they need the black trim but I can live with that. Adding yellow would give the uniforms a very gimmicky/minor league feel IMO. I don’t know how to articulate how I feel other than to say it would be wrong and I don’t like it. Like this masterpiece? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durden Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, 8BW14 said: If the Cardinals really are using yellow in their new uniforms I think that’s a huge mistake. It’s like the Chiefs adding black trim or the Steelers adding red or blue to their uniforms. The Cardinals don’t need anything besides red and white. I don’t even think they need the black trim but I can live with that. Adding yellow would give the uniforms a very gimmicky/minor league feel IMO. I don’t know how to articulate how I feel other than to say it would be wrong and I don’t like it. The Chiefs and Steelers have mostly kept to tradition with their uniforms, so I have to reject your comparisons. The Cardinals don't have that tradition like the Chiefs and Steelers so I believe yellow would be fine as a complementary color since yellow is the color of the beak in the logo. I'd have to see the uniforms with the yellow in them, but as of now I don't hate it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCarp1231 Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 Someone posted a couple pages back about this, but adding yellow without overdoing it does look nice in some cases 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 3 hours ago, TruColor said: The Cardinals changes ARE happening...I have in fact, seen the new helmets. Only question, and most important thing. Did you like it? I know you’re a big Cardinals fan. 3 On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sec19Row53 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 hours ago, bowld said: This was taken from the Owner's meetings- Yellow definitely being used more than before--- What did last year's look like? 2 It's where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8BW14 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Durden said: The Chiefs and Steelers have mostly kept to tradition with their uniforms, so I have to reject your comparisons. The Cardinals don't have that tradition like the Chiefs and Steelers so I believe yellow would be fine as a complementary color since yellow is the color of the beak in the logo. I'd have to see the uniforms with the yellow in them, but as of now I don't hate it. Why? All three are professional football teams who have used the same logo/colors for decades. I’m talking about adding a color that’s used in the logo that has no place in the actual uniforms. The cardinals have changed uniforms over the years, but the uniforms have always remained red/white with some black trim. There is precedent for updating/changing uniforms, but not for the colors. Adding colors to the uniforms isn’t the solution. If anything, subtracting a color is ( I’m talking about black). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasaltvanilla Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 4 hours ago, Durden said: The Cardinals don't have that tradition The Cardinals are literally the oldest franchise in the league lol 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, seasaltvanilla said: The Cardinals are literally the oldest franchise in the league lol You took his statement out of context. With full context, it's accurate. 5 "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasaltvanilla Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 With full context, the Cardinals have been a red/white/black team since before half the league existed, including the aforementioned Chiefs. So, no, it's not accurate to say the Cardinals don't have the tradition that the Chiefs do. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Star Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 5 hours ago, tBBP said: Chiefs, Redski Commanders, Cardinals...eh, why not?? (I personally wish they'd use a little of that Arizona flag blue color, but oh well...) They did. They replaced black with navy blue on the white jerseys from 1996 to 2004. It's out there if you check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 2 hours ago, seasaltvanilla said: With full context, the Cardinals have been a red/white/black team since before half the league existed, including the aforementioned Chiefs. So, no, it's not accurate to say the Cardinals don't have the tradition that the Chiefs do. They have like double the history but a fraction of the tradition. Even before the Reebok pipe fest, can never recall it being lauded the way other traditional looks have. Once they did that they broke from the little bit they were hanging onto. With slight nudges along the way with striping attempts, most notably the Arizona flag stripes. Tradition and History really point to the same thing, but influenced by success. One is a judgement, the other is a fact. I think anyone who says it doesn’t have the tradition is pointing to that. Schrödinger’s tradition, does it exist if no one pays attention to it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltman Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 8 hours ago, 8BW14 said: If the Cardinals really are using yellow in their new uniforms I think that’s a huge mistake. It’s like the Chiefs adding black trim or the Steelers adding red or blue to their uniforms. The Cardinals don’t need anything besides red and white. I don’t even think they need the black trim but I can live with that. Adding yellow would give the uniforms a very gimmicky/minor league feel IMO. I don’t know how to articulate how I feel other than to say it would be wrong and I don’t like it. I think comparing the Cards to either of them is a stretch. Chiefs have maintained their AFL heritage look for most of their existence. The Steelers uniform became iconic with the success post merger. Colts and Raiders also in those tiers. When did the Cardinals look ever move into that zone? Beyond just like simplicity and retro vibes in a uniform are they really an iconic team look wise that is worth the ire? Especially since they ditched the design part of that. If you really want to look at success the times they’ve actually been relevant have been when they have additional colors in their scheme. Tan at the beginning, black and a bit of yellow in the last 18 years. I totally get wanting to stick to the old, especially here where most people slant that way, but seems like an odd hill to die on when that simple just red and white uniform died almost two decades ago. And by a giant margin when it was what they wore they were one of the worst franchises in the league. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Check the primary logos and tell me the Chiefs have make-believe "rights" to using red and yellow. 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailorOfSilence102 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 I mean, the original Chiefs logo and the Dallas Texans logo both had yellow in them, and the Cardinals have basically never used yellow. The Chiefs, despite the logo, are The Red and Yellow NFL team, and the Cardinals aren't really anything, but the closest they would be is Red and White with some black, which I guess is what the Chiefs logo is lol. Regardless any bellyaching about how they might look like the Chiefs is just silly, with the Cardinals shade of red and presumably darker shade of yellow, they'd look more Washington or USC then the Chiefs. 4 I have borderline personality disorder, if my posts ever come off as aggressive or word vomit-y to you, please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailorOfSilence102 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Kiltman said: I totally get wanting to stick to the old, especially here where most people slant that way, but seems like an odd hill to die on when that simple just red and white uniform died almost two decades ago. And by a giant margin when it was what they wore they were one of the worst franchises in the league. For me, it's less about tradition (I actually the white helmets and grey facemasks, which seems to be unpopular) and more about the fact that just, I think Red white and Black is a really solid color scheme, and I haven't really seen much where making yellow a primary color looks good. I think they could, and I hope, they keep that color scheme, and just simplify it a bit without going totally retro. That said, I actually do like a lot of the ideas involving Sandy colors so to speak, but I kinda doubt that'll happen. 4 I have borderline personality disorder, if my posts ever come off as aggressive or word vomit-y to you, please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old School Fool Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 I seriously doubt the Cardinals get rid of black. They just debuted the black helmet so they will absolutely keep a black jersey to go with it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Old School Fool said: I seriously doubt the Cardinals get rid of black. They just debuted the black helmet so they will absolutely keep a black jersey to go with it. There’s a small chance the black helmet is retired; the Eagles’ black helmets were just for 2022. Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteeloGreen Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, WSU151 said: There’s a small chance the black helmet is retired; the Eagles’ black helmets were just for 2022. Yeah I don't think any of those announced last year are permanent rotational options, unless it was a classic style. I'd expect teams to switch up and/or tweak their alternate looks more often than not. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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