Division 1 College Conference Realignment

[Germanshepherd]

 

[TrueYankee26]

27 minutes ago, Germanshepherd said:

 

Yeah... for now....

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, TrueYankee26 said:

Yeah... for now....

(No) thanks to the NCAA and the SEC, soon we'll just have the SEC and the ACC (or Big Ten) left.  West Coast bias hurt the Pac-10/Pac-12 teams and SEC bias hurts everyone else.    

[Dilbert]

Now we just need Hawaii to join the ACC

[SeaTac]

BIG TEN & SEC eventually grow to 24 schools a piece and then split from the NCAA with their Champions in all sports playing each other for the "National Championship". 

[WestCoastBias]

Yeah Larry Scott deserves a lot of blame for this but if USC didn't hire bad coach after bad coach for a whole decade then the stock of the conference wouldn't be so down. Same goes for UCLA, when did they ever place a large importance on football? They just barely started caring about basketball again after a surprise Final Four run. USC and UCLA wouldn't feel the need to leave the Pac-12 if they cared about their major sports like they should have been. Oregon has consistently put resources into football and so did Washington before Jimmy Lake killed all their momentum, even Stanford was elite for half of the 2010's! Washington State invested and achieved under Leach too! USC and UCLA didn't hold up their end of the deal and now they want to blame the rest of the Pac-12. Well, have fun playing freezing cold games in November and going to road games against Purdue, Indiana, Rutgers, Maryland, and Illinois. Screw them, good riddance. 

[PrimalCookie]

 

[DG_ThenNowForever]

UCLA flies in a chartered plane though, right?

[GDAWG]

I wonder how this affects March Madness and the non-money making sports like baseball and soccer?

[Discrim]

Among things I never considered possibly happening, a Pac 12 school joining the Big Ten was definitely on that list...and yet here we are, the LA schools throwing their lot in with us Great Lakers due mostly to their own incompetence seemingly ruining the Pac 12 (with a little help from the Arizona schools and Colorado).  Tis a mad banquet of darkness we're entering.

[Brian in Boston]

3 hours ago, DG_ThenNowForever said:

It's a shame you couldn't just start a successful football league for 18- to 22-year-olds, and that it has to operate under the veneer of amateurism to actually work. Universities shouldn't be in the business of professional sports during a student loan crises, yet they are. Athletes are just now finally able to sign NIL deals, but it's at least two generations too late. And universities are at each others' throats to more successfully monetize young, underpaid men hitting each other in the head.

 

If we didn't pretend college football had anything to do with colleges, the whole thing would fall apart.

 

It stinks.

Spot-on.

The migration of UCLA and USC to the Big Ten Conference is - like so much else about the world of "big time college sports" ™ - yet another example of pure, unadulterated, unfettered greed and self-promotion. Not one of the coaches or athletic directors involved in the remaking of the "big time college sports" ™ landscape cares one iota about anything more than their own enrichment and aggrandizement. They certainly don't give a **** about the education of student-athletes. As for the administrators of the colleges and universities participating in "big time college sports" ™, they've done nothing less than enable the prostituting of their academic institutions.

Here's how out of whack the priorities are in the good ol' U.S. of A.: the last time I checked, the highest-paid public employee in 40 of the 50 United States was the head coach of either the football or basketball team at a state college or university.  Not a governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general, or treasurer of a state.  Not a chancellor, president, provost, or dean at a state college or university. Nope. An intercollegiate coach.  What does that tell you about where our collective focus is trained as a society?

Insane.

[Dilbert]

Not to mention these student athletes are still expected to be in class the next morning after a late flight after the game

[oldschoolvikings]

6 hours ago, Dilbert said:

Not to mention these student athletes are still expected to be in class the next morning after a late flight after the game

Are they?

[dont care]

7 hours ago, Dilbert said:

Not to mention these student athletes are still expected to be in class the next morning after a late flight after the game

This is a joke right? College athletes constantly get excusals from class, especially D1 football players.

[Burmy]

56 minutes ago, dont care said:

This is a joke right? College athletes constantly get excusals from class, especially D1 football players.

In fact, a common joke in student-athlete movies and films is how colleges significantly lower their academic standards just for their star athletes (it's been a trope everywhere from SNL to Rocky & Bullwinkle)

[oldschoolvikings]

18 hours ago, jzn110 said:

Here's my question: how long does Rutgers stick around in the B1G? They haven't exactly been a top performer in the conference since joining. I could see them leaving at some point.

 

 

 

Rutgers is going nowhere.  
 

Even here in the middle of Big Ten country people are angry about Rutgers being in, but it just shows that some people have a real misunderstanding about what this is really all about.  At the last Big Ten Network TV deal Rutgers was worth an extra 25 million, and it’ll be even more when the new deal comes up.  And that new deal will now also include the Los Angeles market …. It’s going to be mind boggling. 
 

If it was only about football and the only real goal was winning football championships, then the SEC rules.  But college athletics isn’t just football and there’s a giant machine chugging along that includes basketball, baseball, on down to small sports no one ever thinks about.  And the true goal for these schools (obviously) is to make as much money as possible.  
 

The Big Ten Network will now have a foothold in New York/New Jersey, Chicago, and Los Angeles , not to mention Philadelphia, Detroit,  Washington, Indianapolis, and Minneapolis. The SEC’s biggest markets right now would be Atlanta and Dallas… not bad, but not even in the same neighborhood by comparison. 
 

The Big Ten has been printing money since they started their own network and added Maryland and Rutgers.  By adding UCLA and USC, now they’ll start building mints. 

 

[McCall]

11 minutes ago, oldschoolvikings said:

 

Rutgers is going nowhere.  
 

Even here in the middle of Big Ten country people are angry about Rutgers being in, but it just shows that some people have a real misunderstanding about what this is really all about.  At the last Big Ten Network TV deal Rutgers was worth an extra 25 million, and it’ll be even more when the new deal comes up.  And that new deal will now also include the Los Angeles market …. It’s going to be mind boggling. 
 

If it was only about football and the only real goal was winning football championships, then the SEC rules.  But college athletics isn’t just football and there’s a giant machine chugging along that includes basketball, baseball, on down to small sports no one ever thinks about.  And the true goal for these schools (obviously) is to make as much money as possible.  
 

The Big Ten Network will now have a foothold in New York/New Jersey, Chicago, and Los Angeles , not to mention Philadelphia, Detroit,  Washington, Indianapolis, and Minneapolis. The SEC’s biggest markets right now would be Atlanta and Dallas… not bad, but not even in the same neighborhood by comparison. 
 

The Big Ten has been printing money since they started their own network and added Maryland and Rutgers.  By adding UCLA and USC, now they’ll start building mints. 

 

Which makes it even more mind boggling when you look at the popularity of the SEC and they're in nowhere near the amount of major markets the Big Ten is.

[heavybass]

Big Twenty eventually?

[Sec19Row53]

16 minutes ago, McCall said:

Which makes it even more mind boggling when you look at the popularity of the SEC and they're in nowhere near the amount of major markets the Big Ten is.

For football, yes. Overall no.

 

IMO. I think @oldschoolvikingswould agree with me.

[Sec19Row53]

This is pretty cool