jkrdevil Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Well they wouldn't be expanding just to reach markets, it is just one factor. In the case of Virginia Tech it is a program that has gotten to to the BCS Bowl games the last few years and and has a strong rabid traveling fan base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashcarson15 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 The SEC's been pretty successful despite having schools based in towns such as Starkville, Columbia, Tuscaloosa, Lexington, and Fayetteville. I'm pretty confident that the SEC isn't expanding just to have a foothold in St. Louis or Washington DC.Yeah, but they have the television footprint in cities like Jackson, Charleston, Birmingham, Louisville, and Little Rock through those four teams. And you're fooling yourself if you don't think that this is all about bringing in more revenue, presumably from television.Putting teams in Blacksburg, College Station, and Columbia (the other one) would do just what the teams that are currently in the conference do. I don't see your point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedleyLamarr Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I don't see your point...My point is that the SEC got two seperate 15-year, multi-billion dollar deals: One from CBS (Which no other conference has been offered by any other basic-TV only channel), and one by ESPN (Which was the first contract of it's magnitude given by ESPN). And this is despite the SEC not having any footholds in the top 7 media markets.That alone signifies that the SEC isn't expanding just to reach certain media markets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashcarson15 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Couldn't they get more out of the deal by reaching the Baltimore-Washington, Houston, and Dallas markets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedleyLamarr Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Well they wouldn't be expanding just to reach markets, it is just one factor. In the case of Virginia Tech it is a program that has gotten to to the BCS Bowl games the last few years and and has a strong rabid traveling fan base.Virginia Tech does not have a rabid or strong travelling fan base. The attendance figures for the ACC Championship Games the last few years speaks to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Florida State and Texas A&M going to the SEC is getting more and more steam, according to Tomahawk Nation and Warchant.TAMU is a done deal, will be announced August 22nd. FSU is being talked about and sources say they would accept, pending an offer. However, look out for Florida to veto that move.I see Virginia Tech as a more likely candidate.Why does everyone think Florida would get in the way of FSU to the SEC? Florida was the sponsor to try and get them into the SEC in the 90s.Sporting News is reporting that if TAMU goes VT or Missouri are the favorites if Oklahoma doesn't jump with A&M. As for the FSU rumors, I would imagine there are a few ACC schools that would jump ship at this point. They signed their new TV deal a year too soon before Comcast/NBC basically entered the picture. Afterwards the Pac-12 got a much bigger contract than them and even the Big East could trump them in TV dollars. I don't see the ACC having the leadership to be proactive in this mess to avoid. If Va Tech or FSU jump ship I hope the Maryland Big 10 rumors that were around last year were true and the B1G looks a MD as a reaction move.The Maryland to B10 is done and was done before the B10 even expanded. The latest push involving the Terps is the Big East trying to get them to join and BC to re-join.Them adding FSU would be to try to cut into the Gators recruiting.Not really. Look at the 2011 class and the way the 2012 class is shaping up. If all they cared about was FSU hurting UF's recruiting, they would just keep rooting for FSU to win recruiting battles and the other SEC coaches would negatively recruit against Florida.All that said, I'd prefer the Noles stay in the ACC as it would be an easier road to the National Championship or BCS game. Quote Athletic Director: KTU Blue Grassers Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Well they wouldn't be expanding just to reach markets, it is just one factor. In the case of Virginia Tech it is a program that has gotten to to the BCS Bowl games the last few years and and has a strong rabid traveling fan base.Don't force me to throw up that aerial image of the Boston College-Virginia Tech ACC championship game. Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 The Maryland to B10 is done and was done before the B10 even expanded. The latest push involving the Terps is the Big East trying to get them to join and BC to re-join.I'm pretty sure there are still enough bad feelings from BC bailing out that UConn at least would try to thwart a reunion. Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 The Big East has already extended a standing invitation. I'd say feelings aren't too hurt. Quote Athletic Director: KTU Blue Grassers Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkJourney Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 The Sporting News thinks the SEC might consider Louisville? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 If TAMU bails on the big 12 for the SEC, where does that leave some of the other schools? Texas I would assume would go independent, and with their resources including their own network, they could do that very easily. But where does that leave Oklahoma, and to a lesser extent, Texas Tech? Quote On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 If TAMU bails on the big 12 for the SEC, where does that leave some of the other schools? Texas I would assume would go independent, and with their resources including their own network, they could do that very easily. But where does that leave Oklahoma, and to a lesser extent, Texas Tech?Oklahoma would probably be invited to the SEC. If they decline Mizzou may get it. Assuming that for a moment, I'd see OU, Ok ST and probably Tech trying go out to the PAC 12 like before. KU, K-State and Iowa St? Don't know. Probably would have to hope for mercy from the B10 or Big East otherwise maybe settle for MWC, which would bump up that conference but lower those schools. Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rams80 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 The Big East has already extended a standing invitation. I'd say feelings aren't too hurt.Source? Quote On 8/1/2010 at 4:01 PM, winters in buffalo said: You manage to balance agitation with just enough salient points to keep things interesting. Kind of a low-rent DG_Now. On 1/2/2011 at 9:07 PM, Sodboy13 said: Today, we are all otaku. "The city of Peoria was once the site of the largest distillery in the world and later became the site for mass production of penicillin. So it is safe to assume that present-day Peorians are descended from syphilitic boozehounds."-Stephen Colbert POTD: February 15, 2010, June 20, 2010 The Glorious Bloom State Penguins (NCFAF) 2014: 2-9, 2015: 7-5 (L Pineapple Bowl), 2016: 1-0 (NCFAB) 2014-15: 10-8, 2015-16: 14-5 (SMC Champs, L 1st Round February Frenzy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBGKon Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 If TAMU bails on the big 12 for the SEC, where does that leave some of the other schools? Texas I would assume would go independent, and with their resources including their own network, they could do that very easily. But where does that leave Oklahoma, and to a lesser extent, Texas Tech?Oklahoma would probably be invited to the SEC. If they decline Mizzou may get it. Assuming that for a moment, I'd see OU, Ok ST and probably Tech trying go out to the PAC 12 like before. KU, K-State and Iowa St? Don't know. Probably would have to hope for mercy from the B10 or Big East otherwise maybe settle for MWC, which would bump up that conference but lower those schools.I can't seem to find a link, but there's talk that when aTm bolts for the SEC that KU, K State and Mizzou are hopping a train to the Big East. Strange, but definitely possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted August 12, 2011 Author Share Posted August 12, 2011 Couldn't they get more out of the deal by reaching the Baltimore-Washington, Houston, and Dallas markets?And outside of Maryland, which schools in those markets are "SEC-ready" in terms of talent and possibly finances? SMU?North Texas?Houston? (They are a commuter school)Navy?The Big East has already extended a standing invitation. I'd say feelings aren't too hurt.The same AD and President who moved BC to the ACC as still in their jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfwabel Posted August 12, 2011 Author Share Posted August 12, 2011 If TAMU bails on the big 12 for the SEC, where does that leave some of the other schools? Texas I would assume would go independent, and with their resources including their own network, they could do that very easily. But where does that leave Oklahoma, and to a lesser extent, Texas Tech?Oklahoma would probably be invited to the SEC. If they decline Mizzou may get it. Assuming that for a moment, I'd see OU, Ok ST and probably Tech trying go out to the PAC 12 like before. KU, K-State and Iowa St? Don't know. Probably would have to hope for mercy from the B10 or Big East otherwise maybe settle for MWC, which would bump up that conference but lower those schools.I can't seem to find a link, but there's talk that when aTm bolts for the SEC that KU, K State and Mizzou are hopping a train to the Big East. Strange, but definitely possible.During Big East media days last week, a writer for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette had two blog posts about the thoughts of a couple ADs regarding possible teams, but there were no quotes given. Those three Big XII schools were named in the story, plus there were rumors in the Kansas City area about a move to the Big East at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashcarson15 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Couldn't they get more out of the deal by reaching the Baltimore-Washington, Houston, and Dallas markets?And outside of Maryland, which schools in those markets are "SEC-ready" in terms of talent and possibly finances? SMU?North Texas?Houston? (They are a commuter school)Navy?The Big East has already extended a standing invitation. I'd say feelings aren't too hurt.The same AD and President who moved BC to the ACC as still in their jobs.Maryland and/or Virginia tech would give them access to the Baltimore/Washington media market, and aTm would give them access to the Texan markets. That's what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burmy Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I, for one, have always thought the Big East and ACC should do a "trade".Boston College comes back to the Big East, South Florida goes to the ACC. A win-win scenario all around (might not be likely, but sounds natural) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I, for one, have always thought the Big East and ACC should do a "trade".Boston College comes back to the Big East, South Florida goes to the ACC. A win-win scenario all around (might not be likely, but sounds natural)I have always agreed with this. The geographical layout of this just makes so much sense, which I know is not one of the key factors in today's conference scramble. Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCall Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Couldn't they get more out of the deal by reaching the Baltimore-Washington, Houston, and Dallas markets?And outside of Maryland, which schools in those markets are "SEC-ready" in terms of talent and possibly finances? SMU?North Texas?Houston? (They are a commuter school)Navy?The Big East has already extended a standing invitation. I'd say feelings aren't too hurt.The same AD and President who moved BC to the ACC as still in their jobs.Maryland and/or Virginia tech would give them access to the Baltimore/Washington media market, and aTm would give them access to the Texan markets. That's what I mean.How does Va Tech, a school in western/central Virginia, give them the Baltimore/DC market? Quote https://dribbble.com/MakaioCall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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