2014 MLB Changes (logo, uniform wise, etc)

[Sport]

Any of the proposals for the Reds that have been posted are better than their current set. There's just something about the current set that I can't stand.

I'm probably attached to the black for nostalgic reasons... Either way, I liked it. And I miss it. haha

The current set has its flaws (ie the font is getting more tiresome every year, the needless dropshadows, the black bill on the road hat), but every Reds fan I know prefers it to the 99-06 uniforms.

Pinstripes never felt right for the Reds, vests are for little leaguers, the predominantly black road uniforms didn't work for obvious reasons, and sometimes they did this dumb looking combination:

Plus: 2 winnings seasons in 8 years of use. That is the reason most Reds fans aren't nostalgic for these. The one good year we had in them (1999) we didn't make the playoffs and they mostly wore black home and road for that entire season so it doesn't even feel like it was a part of the same set.

[LEWJ]

Any of the proposals for the Reds that have been posted are better than their current set. There's just something about the current set that I can't stand.

I'm probably attached to the black for nostalgic reasons... Either way, I liked it. And I miss it. haha

The current set has its flaws (ie the font is getting more tiresome every year, the needless dropshadows, the black bill on the road hat), but every Reds fan I know prefers it to the 99-06 uniforms.

Pinstripes never felt right for the Reds, vests are for little leaguers, the predominantly black road uniforms didn't work for obvious reasons, and sometimes they did this dumb looking combination:

Plus: 2 winnings seasons in 8 years of use. That is the reason most Reds fans aren't nostalgic for these. The one good year we had in them (1999) we didn't make the playoffs and they mostly wore black home and road for that entire season so it doesn't even feel like it was a part of the same set.

In one of my previous posts I mentioned this combo. Sleeves should match the caps/helmets in this case (& most cases).

[Beeperino]

Any of the proposals for the Reds that have been posted are better than their current set. There's just something about the current set that I can't stand.

I'm probably attached to the black for nostalgic reasons... Either way, I liked it. And I miss it. haha

The current set has its flaws (ie the font is getting more tiresome every year, the needless dropshadows, the black bill on the road hat), but every Reds fan I know prefers it to the 99-06 uniforms.

Pinstripes never felt right for the Reds, vests are for little leaguers, the predominantly black road uniforms didn't work for obvious reasons, and sometimes they did this dumb looking combination:

Plus: 2 winnings seasons in 8 years of use. That is the reason most Reds fans aren't nostalgic for these. The one good year we had in them (1999) we didn't make the playoffs and they mostly wore black home and road for that entire season so it doesn't even feel like it was a part of the same set.

Yep, like a cartoon version of their mid- '60s unis.

Now the Reds have a bit of a cartoon version of their '70s-80s at home, late '30s away.....with white outline and black dropshadow on top of it. It makes my head hurt. At the very least, they could rid themselves of their absurd "road" hat with the black bill. At least.

Sorry to all the non-Reds fans out there reading this thread. There was a part of me that had been waiting on last week's fan event to (finally) hear some sort of announcement updating/improving the Reds uniforms. I was hopeful because it's about their time (usually 6-7 years beginning with the '93 update), the trend in MLB toward eliminating black for the sake of black (Mets, Royals, etc), and the increasing prevalence of simple, clean red and white in much of the Reds marketing. I let myself get even more hopeful after seeing the Rangers remove their dropshadow and other extras.

Then.... all I got was a hideous camo jersey, a one-day St. Patrick's Day jersey for ST, and basically a black/white road BP jersey. I guess I'm still a little traumatized.

[tomtucker]

reds should swich to teal

Actually, they should just change their name to the "Teals". When you think about it, sports has nicknames like "Blues", "Grays", "Reds", "All Blacks", etc. I have no problem with teal as a color, but man does the actual word "teal" just sound weak compared to the more traditional colors.

indeed........but what is teal called in other languages ?

.........maybe that would change everything

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[Brian]

I'm traumatized as well. I too had high hopes for a cleaner, drop shadow-less Reds uniforms. I fear that black is making a comeback, which is actually unbelievable since some teams are wising up and doing away with black altogether (Mets / Rangers). I'm crossing my fingers they don't start wearing their Sunday / Day game red tops on more than just those specific games. I am a big proponent of white for home and grey on the road. Instead of an alt, I would like to see the Reds do what other teams have done. Bring back an old style uniform to wear on Sundays.

[guest23]

I would like it if the Reds revived something like their 1970 set (immediately preceding the pullover set from '72-'92). Simple, clean, and classic.

Now that's perfect. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but I fail to see how the addition of black in any way helps this design.

1. Red is the name of the team

2. Red is a strong color

3. Red doesn't need anything else to be successful.

Red is also the global color of COMMUNISM. Anyone that supports a team named the REDS is a MARXIST. Supporting a team that uses Red as their only team color is UN-AMERICAN. They must have either black or navy to make their color scheme acceptable. They should also seriously consider changing their name out of RESPECT for AMERICA and DEMOCRACY.

Funny thing is that actually happened to the Reds ...

Yup you guys got on to me and my round about way of telling the tale of the old Redlegs. Gotta love good Old Fashioned American Paranioa heartland style.

[dbadefense1990]

I would like it if the Reds revived something like their 1970 set (immediately preceding the pullover set from '72-'92). Simple, clean, and classic.

Now that's perfect. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but I fail to see how the addition of black in any way helps this design.

1. Red is the name of the team

2. Red is a strong color

3. Red doesn't need anything else to be successful.

Red is also the global color of COMMUNISM. Anyone that supports a team named the REDS is a MARXIST. Supporting a team that uses Red as their only team color is UN-AMERICAN. They must have either black or navy to make their color scheme acceptable. They should also seriously consider changing their name out of RESPECT for AMERICA and DEMOCRACY.

Funny thing is that actually happened to the Reds ...

Yup you guys got on to me and my round about way of telling the tale of the old Redlegs. Gotta love good Old Fashioned American Paranioa heartland style.

Americans have always been consistent on this whole, "Socialism is evil" aspect. Back then, it was "because of the Commies." Now, it is all "because of the Liberals."

[Soarindude]

I would like it if the Reds revived something like their 1970 set (immediately preceding the pullover set from '72-'92). Simple, clean, and classic.

Now that's perfect. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but I fail to see how the addition of black in any way helps this design.

1. Red is the name of the team

2. Red is a strong color

3. Red doesn't need anything else to be successful.

Red is also the global color of COMMUNISM. Anyone that supports a team named the REDS is a MARXIST. Supporting a team that uses Red as their only team color is UN-AMERICAN. They must have either black or navy to make their color scheme acceptable. They should also seriously consider changing their name out of RESPECT for AMERICA and DEMOCRACY.

Funny thing is that actually happened to the Reds ...

Yup you guys got on to me and my round about way of telling the tale of the old Redlegs. Gotta love good Old Fashioned American Paranioa heartland style.

Americans have always been consistent on this whole, "Socialism is evil" aspect. Back then, it was "because of the Commies." Now, it is all "because of the Liberals."

I think we have a pretty fair reason to fear it.

[Gothamite]

Not really. We love socialism - try eliminating Medicare - we just don't like the word. And actually, that's changing with the younger generations who aren't steeped in the same boogeymen their elders were.

Americans have always been consistent on this whole, "Socialism is evil" aspect. Back then, it was "because of the Commies." Now, it is all "because of the Liberals."

It's more of a mid-century thing. There were relatively strong Socialist Parties in the early decades of the 20th Century. It's largely due to conflating socialism with Russia after WWII that it got its bad name. But the farther we get away from the Red Scare, the sillier we realize it was (Really, Cincinnati?) and the less we fear it.

[TheOldRoman]

^Lolz. If you're resorting to praising Medicare, you've already failed. Medicare is a dumpster fire. And no, us "not liking the word" hasn't changed. Maybe it would have had your side not thrown hissy fits and claimed it was a racial codeword when it was applied to such policies, but your stance has ensured that people are afraid to even utter that word. You also might want to check recent polls for Obamacare approval, particularly among the young. Before you say it, they don't disapprove because they actually want single payer. But continue the whole "old people are dumb with their boogeymen, but even though I'm old, I'm cool and hip" routine.

[IceCap]

Americans have always been consistent on this whole, "Socialism is evil" aspect. Back then, it was "because of the Commies." Now, it is all "because of the Liberals."

It's more of a mid-century thing. There were relatively strong Socialist Parties in the early decades of the 20th Century. It's largely due to conflating socialism with Russia after WWII that it got its bad name. But the farther we get away from the Red Scare, the sillier we realize it was (Really, Cincinnati?) and the less we fear it.

The problem was that the Soviet Union fancied itself the standard barrier of socialism in the world. Something reinforced by the fact that some socialist parties in the United States and elsewhere paying deference to the USSR and the CPSU.

Socialism isn't inherently destructive. Personally I think it, along with conservatism and liberalism, has something positive to offer.

The problem was that in the post-WWII world socialism as a cause was hijacked by a totalitarian police state led by one of the most brutal dictators in human history. When that's the face of socialism then people will understandably have a bit of a warped perspective.

[The Mojo Maniac]

So how about those 2014 MLB changes?

[cmm]

I don't think we got good look at the back of the Mets camo jerseys (that's SNY's Gary Apple and two other anthem tryout judges). No MLB logo on the back, so maybe these aren't authentics but it should give us a good idea of how they'll look.

[Sodboy13]

The best descriptor I can come up with is "stupid".

[TheOldRoman]

Yeah, if they want to sell those as fashion jerseys and give "a percentage" to charity, have at it. But stop ruining teams' looks, even for one game, to do this. That looks terrible.

[The_Admiral]

But continue the whole "old people are dumb with their boogeymen, but even though I'm old, I'm cool and hip" routine.

This is not a value judgment, just an excuse to post a video:

[guest23]

Yeah, if they want to sell those as fashion jerseys and give "a percentage" to charity, have at it. But stop ruining teams' looks, even for one game, to do this. That looks terrible.

And percentage being <2%

[TheOldRoman]

Yeah, if they want to sell those as fashion jerseys and give "a percentage" to charity, have at it. But stop ruining teams' looks, even for one game, to do this. That looks terrible.

And percentage being <2%

Yeah, that's why I put it in quotes.

Newspaper editor: ...And to protect Mother Earth, each copy contains a certain percentage of recycled paper.

Lisa: And what percent is that?

Newspaper editor: Zero.

(Lisa frowns)

Newspaper editor: Zero’s a percent.

[guest23]

Yeah, if they want to sell those as fashion jerseys and give "a percentage" to charity, have at it. But stop ruining teams' looks, even for one game, to do this. That looks terrible.

And percentage being <2%

Yeah, that's why I put it in quotes.

Newspaper editor: ...And to protect Mother Earth, each copy contains a certain percentage of recycled paper.

Lisa: And what percent is that?

Newspaper editor: Zero.

(Lisa frowns)

Newspaper editor: Zero’s a percent.

Poor Lisa always being let down by society...

[Gothamite]

Ah, yes. When the Simpsons was good.

Baseball increased the percentage it was giving (still outrageously low, as anything short of "all gross proceeds" would be), does anybody know if the NFL has, or is that still a total ing scam?