DC in Da House w/o a Doubt Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 hours ago, radchad said: Cal released photos of their new field: Wouldn't be surprised to see Cal use that striping format on their uniforms. They seem to be embracing it. Could look good on the sleeves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 2 hours ago, oldschoolvikings said: I think you're missing his point. Nobody is saying they can just put a full shoulder loop on the latest Nike or Adidas template. The thought is, if a team went to their manufacturer (would have be be a relatively important client for that manufacturer... LSU, or preferably UCLA, who the friggin' stripe is named after) and said, "look, this is our signature... our fans love it, they hate change, our brand depends on it... find a way to create a lightweight, tight-fitting jersey, with as little extra fabric as possible, but still incorporates his type of stripe. It's important to us... we are the client... just do it", it's very very difficult to believe that the experts at these companies couldn't do it. Of course they could. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that's exactly how that jersey that LSU and Ole' Miss have been wearing happened. Nike didn't just decide to do that... one of those teams came to them and complained about the shortening of the stripes, and that was the solution. It's obvious most teams don't care that much, and most fans don't notice, and after a certain amount of time, those stripe are no longer considered cut-off, they just become the norm. But to pretend like there's just no choice... it's garbage. Nike and Adidas sell the schools on this marketing scheme that these tighter, lighter jerseys will help them win (1.234% lighter!! 2.5432% harder to grab!!!) and the schools sign up for the template they want. If it's a traditional school that wants to keep their tradition design, they are probably fine with the compromise of whatever slight alterations have to be made. But don't buy that they have no choice. Here's proof... a few years back, when Michigan was an Adidas school, Jim Harbaugh wanted this uniform; Elasticized cuff stripe that went all the way around, sleeves big enough for a 4" number... as far as I know, that was like no other jersey Adidas manufactured at that time... look at what they produced for pretty much every other team they worked with. But Harbaugh said, "this is what I want" (probably took his shirt off, and went all bug eyed) and they cared enough to actually do it. Obviously, Nike went full Nike on them, but I'd bet that was because they decided it was better marketing to adapt to a Nike template. But don't believe Michigan couldn't have insisted on full wrap-around sleeve cuffs and a number on the sleeve... they always have that option. A template is the manufacturer's business... the dog shouldn't have to be wagged by the tail. Well ripon produced those uniforms too because adidas wasn't giving them the product they wanted. They just had to put an adidas logo to satify the contract still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 26 minutes ago, dont care said: Well ripon produced those uniforms too because adidas wasn't giving them the product they wanted. They just had to put an adidas logo to satify the contract still. OK, assuming that's true, does Ripon have some kind of magic formula unavailable to the geniuses at Adidas or Nike? I guessing not. Suppose when UCLA's contract is up, and if Nike tried to sign with them, if UCLA agreed on the condition that Nike supply them with a custom jersey that accommodates their stripe, would Nike just refuse? Say it's impossible? I don't know, maybe they would just say no, but if so that's a sign that, when it come to CFB, the client/supplier relationship has gotten completely f'd up. http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Out Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 hours ago, oldschoolvikings said: I think you're missing his point. Nobody is saying they can just put a full shoulder loop on the latest Nike or Adidas template. Plus, Nike is already changing their template to accommodate the cut-off stripes. As someone else pointed out earlier in the thread, there's an extra seam along the shoulders where the stripes terminate that isn't on jerseys that don't have shoulder striping/yokes/etc. They've managed to do this without compromising on their main selling points of lightness or fit. If Nike can do that, why can't they change their template to fit a full shoulder loop if that's what the client is asking for? Especially when smaller companies like Ripon are perfectly capable of doing it? The same applies to Adidas and Under Armour. The blame ultimately falls on the clients. They're content with shoulder stripes that terminate awkwardly and don't look good. If enough clients started pressuring the Big Three to make jerseys with real shoulder loops, I'm sure they'd find a way. POTD: 2/4/12 3/4/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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H11K Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 28 minutes ago, DNAsports said: Really thought that was K State for a sec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightingGoldenDevil Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 3 hours ago, DNAsports said: FU coach Hendricks? Poor choice of words lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_tattoos Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 FU all the time? Is Furman a Christian school? lol Hotter Than July > Thriller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorback447 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 5 hours ago, DNAsports said: Is that a black center stripe on the purple jersey? I can't tell on my phone but it kind of looks like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WavePunter Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 12 minutes ago, 4_tattoos said: FU all the time? Is Furman a Christian school? lol Yep.. And a Paladin is a Christian Knight.. Good thing they went with Furman University Paladins instead of Furman University Christian Knights.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WavePunter Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, razorback447 said: Is that a black center stripe on the purple jersey? I can't tell on my phone but it kind of looks like it. Purple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest23 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 6 hours ago, oldschoolvikings said: OK, assuming that's true, does Ripon have some kind of magic formula unavailable to the geniuses at Adidas or Nike? I guessing not. Suppose when UCLA's contract is up, and if Nike tried to sign with them, if UCLA agreed on the condition that Nike supply them with a custom jersey that accommodates their stripe, would Nike just refuse? Say it's impossible? I don't know, maybe they would just say no, but if so that's a sign that, when it come to CFB, the client/supplier relationship has gotten completely f'd up. Ripon's magic formula is using the generic late 90's jersey template which was the basis for 90% of college and pro jerseys and is still used by the packers, panthers, cfl and select others. When Ucla went back to their traditional stripe they literally went back to an older template that was worn before techfit came on the scene. It all comes down to $ and who has the leverage. If Ucla has the clout to mandate a certain uniform style in their contract language then it's up to the supplier to provide that product or they have to source an acceptable alternative that meets the contractual obligation. The crux of the issue is that 95% of the parties on the client side only care about the financial aspects of the supplier deals. Most decision makers either aren't detail oriented in such a matter or simply don't care. You'd be surprised how close enough is the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolvikings Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 11 hours ago, guest23 said: It all comes down to $ and who has the leverage. If Ucla has the clout to mandate a certain uniform style in their contract language then it's up to the supplier to provide that product or they have to source an acceptable alternative that meets the contractual obligation. The crux of the issue is that 95% of the parties on the client side only care about the financial aspects of the supplier deals. Most decision makers either aren't detail oriented in such a matter or simply don't care. You'd be surprised how close enough is the norm. Actually (and sadly) I don't think any of us would be surprised at all. http://dstewartpaint.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuordr Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 3:54 PM, DNAsports said: These are fantastic!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upperV03 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 New field for Iowa, with the logo at midfield and their custom font for the numbers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 40 minutes ago, upperV03 said: New field for Iowa, with the logo at midfield and their custom font for the numbers: Has the logo been black in the past? I feel yellow would be more visible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upperV03 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 25 minutes ago, dont care said: Has the logo been black in the past? I feel yellow would be more visible They actually haven't even had the logo at midfield in the past, instead only having it in the "IOWA" endzone. You're probably right though, the new midfield logo would be more visible if the colors were flipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSU151 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 50 minutes ago, dont care said: Has the logo been black in the past? I feel yellow would be more visible I could be way off, but perhaps the department execs/top donors really liked the look of the basketball court and wanted to keep the aesthetic. (yes I'm aware the argument is weak because of wood/grass backgrounds). Smart is believing half of what you hear. Genius is knowing which half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illini1 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 1 hour ago, WSU151 said: I could be way off, but perhaps the department execs/top donors really liked the look of the basketball court and wanted to keep the aesthetic. (yes I'm aware the argument is weak because of wood/grass backgrounds). According to Iowa's brand standards manual, only the black version of the logo can be used with a light background. I'm guessing they consider green a light background. http://iowa.828.solutions/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/04/IowaBrandsStandardsManual.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germanshepherd Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Texas Tech with a new font for this season. https://twitter.com/TexasTechFB/status/872491742313947140 i have unquantifiable corpses on my conscience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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