NHL Anti-Thread: Bad Business Decision Aggregator

[The_Admiral]

Well, no, because they budgeted for sales tax revenue from adjacent properties to pay for it and those revenues never materialized. At least one culturally bankrupt gimp has gone to the Jimmy Buffett restaurant.

[FiddySicks]

So it's come to this:

http://www.azcentral...t.html#comments

Glendale officials this week considered offering up City Hall and the main police station as collateral to obtain a $41 million loan to cover sports-related debts.

The city would use the money to cover payments to the National Hockey League and potentially to make payments on Camelback Ranch stadium, the city's spring-training ballpark.

Glendale officials acknowledged the proposal wouldn't bring the city any savings.

"This is by no means a money-saving exercise," Interim City Manager Horatio Skeete said. "This exercise would basically allow us the freedom to do a couple things: spread the payments of the $25 million that is currently owed to the NHL and to shore up ourselves for the (Camelback Ranch payments) that are coming due."

No one talks enough about how that Camelback Ranch thing is just as much a disaster as the Coyotes/Jobberdome. "It has two team facilities separated by a fully stocked pond! We didn't pay for it!"

You can't fight City Hall, but apparently you can pawn it off.

EDIT: oh and

http://www.azcentral.com/community/glendale/articles/2012/06/20/20120620glendale-possible-sales-tax-hike-referendum.html

Glendale is expected to trim $1.1 million from police, fire and other city departments in an effort to avert a referendum to repeal the sales-tax hike the City Council passed last week.

. . .

The latest cuts follow a painful budgeting process that included the layoff of nearly 50 employees and service cuts as the city shored up a $35 million shortfall in its operating budget for the coming fiscal year, which opens July 1.

Some of the budget woes come as the city plans to pay potential Phoenix Coyotes buyer Greg Jamison $17 million in the coming fiscal year to manage the city-owned Jobing.com Arena.

Interim City Manager Horatio Skeete said if the tax increase was repealed, the city would have to consider whether it could pay the arena-management fee.

Sports.

This is actually a decent plan if you ask me. It makes it easier for angry residents of Glendale to riot and burn down the Jobber without those pesky public safety groups getting in the way.

[The_Admiral]

Yeah, just collect insurance after the arson. I'll help burn it down. Of course, I will require a considerable Riot Management Fee for my services, but when you consider that I'm assuming the risk, you're actually coming out ahead!

[GeorgesL]

I may get kicked off the boards for saying this, but Bettman's attempt, combined with Glendale's attempt to keep the team in Phoenix is like Communism. It's a great idea at first, but it doesn't work in the long run.

[FiddySicks]

I may get kicked off the boards for saying this, but Bettman's attempt, combined with Glendale's attempt to keep the team in Phoenix is like Communism. It's a great idea at first, but it doesn't work in the long run.

Except that unlike communism, nobody ever considered Bettman's attempt to keep the team in Arizona a good idea.

[DG_ThenNowForever]

Someone call the National Guard.

[TheOldRoman]

At least one culturally bankrupt gimp has gone to the Jimmy Buffett restaurant.

If it's anything like Cheeseburger in Paradise in Downers Grove, it has really good burgers and great drinks. Is that merely sustenance for the proletariat?

[Sodboy13]

At least one culturally bankrupt gimp has gone to the Jimmy Buffett restaurant.

If it's anything like Cheeseburger in Paradise in Downers Grove, it has really good burgers and great drinks. Is that merely sustenance for the proletariat?

There are dozens of places throughout the city and suburbs where one can get a really good burger and a really good drink without being subjected to the Coral Reefer aesthetic. We are not in an area short on great meat.

Jimmy Buffett concerts strike me as a place where the uptight pretend to be laid-back. I think of his restaurants and home beverage systems as an extension of that lifestyle.

[CS85]

So let me get this straight - Glendale would rather mortage the very skeleton of their city's infrastructure in order to keep the Phoenix Coyotes around?

[Kevin W.]

So let me get this straight - Glendale would rather mortage the very skeleton of their city's infrastructure in order to keep the Phoenix Coyotes around?

I just don't get it. I don't understand how any Coyotes fan can defend this.

[rams80]

So let me get this straight - Glendale would rather mortage the very skeleton of their city's infrastructure in order to keep the Phoenix Coyotes around?

I thought of setting up an organized crime ring in their city first.

[Crash]

So let me get this straight - Glendale would rather mortage the very skeleton of their city's infrastructure in order to keep the Phoenix Coyotes around?

I thought of setting up an organized crime ring in their city first.

Own a hockey team. No money down. No returns expected.

[DustDevil61]

So let me get this straight - Glendale would rather mortage the very skeleton of their city's infrastructure in order to keep the Phoenix Coyotes around?

The image that came to my mind was the Futurama episode where Bender pawns off his body. The key differences here are that, first, he profited financially for it, and second, he got the body back in the end.

I don't see Glendale making a profit over this or retaining their infrastructure anytime soon, should they be able to go through with this. Goldwater would have to be idiots to not do a single thing about this now--but I don't see that happening.

How soon can these wackos be recalled?

[Gothamite]

So let me get this straight - Glendale would rather mortage the very skeleton of their city's infrastructure in order to keep the Phoenix Coyotes around?

I just don't get it. I don't understand how any Coyotes fan can defend this.

"Without our hockey team, how will we show the rest of Arizona that Glendale is a virbrant metropolis, the equal of Paris or New York?"

[IceCap]

So let me get this straight - Glendale would rather mortage the very skeleton of their city's infrastructure in order to keep the Phoenix Coyotes around?

I just don't get it. I don't understand how any Coyotes fan can defend this.

Just give it a few pages. Soon we'll have the Coyotes faithful in here demanding proof for our "ludicrous" claims that Glendale is literally selling itself to keep this team.

This will be because they would not have read the past ten pages (that contain such proof) because they "couldn't bring themselves to read pages of totally not fact-based Coyotes bashing."

[bosrs1]

So let me get this straight - Glendale would rather mortage the very skeleton of their city's infrastructure in order to keep the Phoenix Coyotes around?

I just don't get it. I don't understand how any Coyotes fan can defend this.

"Without our hockey team, how will we show the rest of Arizona that Glendale is a virbrant metropolis, the equal of Paris or New York?"

They'd have been better spent building an Eiffel Tower if that was their intention.

[charger77]

So let me get this straight - Glendale would rather mortage the very skeleton of their city's infrastructure in order to keep the Phoenix Coyotes around?

I just don't get it. I don't understand how any Coyotes fan can defend this.

Just give it a few pages. Soon we'll have the Coyotes faithful in here demanding proof for our "ludicrous" claims that Glendale is literally selling itself to keep this team.

This will be because they would not have read the past ten pages (that contain such proof) because they "couldn't bring themselves to read pages of totally not fact-based Coyotes bashing."

You're just jealous that the Coyotes had a better season than the Leafs!

or

Why do you hate Shane Doan?

or

Its a Phoenix thing, you wouldn't understand!

[bosrs1]

So let me get this straight - Glendale would rather mortage the very skeleton of their city's infrastructure in order to keep the Phoenix Coyotes around?

I just don't get it. I don't understand how any Coyotes fan can defend this.

"Without our hockey team, how will we show the rest of Arizona that Glendale is a virbrant metropolis, the equal of Paris or New York?"

I liked this comment better.

"The petition going around now is to bring this decision to a vote, not for the peoples' voices to be heard, but for the deal to be killed by people who oppose any sort of government action to help improve the economy."

Last I checked that is exactly WHY we vote in this country. It's the way people's voices are heard, and if those voices say kill the deal because it's crap than it will be done. If they want people to vote their way they have just as much time to convince the people of Glendale to vote with them. But considering their mortgaging their city away to do it... THAT is why they don't want people to vote, they know it's a bad deal and they haven't cared.

[BigBubba]

So let me get this straight - Glendale would rather mortage the very skeleton of their city's infrastructure in order to keep the Phoenix Coyotes around?

I just don't get it. I don't understand how any Coyotes fan can defend this.

Just give it a few pages. Soon we'll have the Coyotes faithful in here demanding proof for our "ludicrous" claims that Glendale is literally selling itself to keep this team.

This will be because they would not have read the past ten pages (that contain such proof) because they "couldn't bring themselves to read pages of totally not fact-based Coyotes bashing."

You're just jealous that the Coyotes had a better season than the Leafs!

or

Why do you hate Shane Doan?

or

Its a Phoenix thing, you wouldn't understand!

You're just Canadian hockey supremacists, that's all! You can't stand to have less than 30 teams in Canada! You're just jealous that the US has more teams than Canada! Let me guess, we have to move the Rangers and Red Wings too? Don't tell me that's not the same thing!!1!!!!11

[GeorgesL]

So let me get this straight - Glendale would rather mortage the very skeleton of their city's infrastructure in order to keep the Phoenix Coyotes around?

I just don't get it. I don't understand how any Coyotes fan can defend this.

"Without our hockey team, how will we show the rest of Arizona that Glendale is a virbrant metropolis, the equal of Paris or New York?"

I'm pretty sure there are other features that Glendale can support and provide for the public and the tourists. But it can't be just a hockey team.