Tampa Bay Buccaneers Unveil New Uniforms

[daniel75]

Just now, Jojopeligreeno said:

It’s a funny thing and what makes uniforms and designs so interesting and this board fun.

It’s funny how differently we see things. 

[DG_ThenNowForever]

3 minutes ago, CrookedThumb said:

Not a leak, but my favorite speculative mock-up so far

 

https://twitter.com/samer__ali/status/1246514176337600512?s=21

 

(edit:  don’t know why that didn’t auto-embed)

 

 

There was another mock-up with the red and white jerseys, but also a pewter shirt with gold numbers. I think gold numbers on that last jersey would look pretty nice, even if that color isn't otherwise reflected in their brand.

 

I'd also expect the numbers to be more custom than those.

[daniel75]

Can we all agree it needs orange trim though?

[chakfu]

45 minutes ago, Ridleylash said:

Eeeeeh...I'd argue the opposite. The new one feels like a generic "pirate flag"-type logo, while the old logo had charm and character to it. It fit the sort of rough, aggressive nature of pirates pretty well. The new one feels too clean, to me.

 

I definitely agree that many modern logos feel too clean - it's an aesthetic that makes them feel more like a fan concept or SB nation site logo.

[mafiaman]

1 hour ago, dannykraft said:

If they made the skull and sword solid white I think its a far better logo. The silver is just unnecessary. 

Because swords are...solid white?  

[Gobbi]

1 minute ago, mafiaman said:

Because swords are...solid white?  

Swords on pirate flags are.

[Ridleylash]

1 minute ago, Gobbi said:

Swords on pirate flags are.

It's also a sports logo, at the end of the day; you can take some creative liberties with the design. Silver swords makes sense for the entire brand of the team; flat white swords looks silly.

[WavePunter]

6 minutes ago, Ridleylash said:

It's also a sports logo, at the end of the day; you can take some creative liberties with the design. Silver swords makes sense for the entire brand of the team; flat white swords looks silly.

But they didn't look silly on the previous logo's flag...

[mafiaman]

1 minute ago, WavePunter said:

But they didn't look silly on the previous logo's flag...

I literally really only paid attention to that side-by-side comparison today when I posted the two images.  Now I'd like to revisit the idea of changing the swords to bones.  THEN we can get rid of silver!  

[monkeypower]

17 minutes ago, Ridleylash said:

It's also a sports logo, at the end of the day; you can take some creative liberties with the design.

 

NEVER!!!!!! 

On 2/25/2020 at 9:52 AM, monkeypower said:

The Bucs logo always confused me a bit when I was a kid.

 

Like I feel like there's no real easy way to attach a flag to a sword and then if you do successfully attach a flag to a sword, it kind of negates the whole purpose of a sword because there's a flag flapping in the wind or just hanging there getting in way when you're trying to sword fight.

 

On 2/25/2020 at 6:39 PM, monkeypower said:

 

Like I said, there's got to be a easier way to carry a flag than on a sword. You're also wasting a sword too.

 

[Ridleylash]

13 minutes ago, WavePunter said:

But they didn't look silly on the previous logo's flag...

The difference here is that this looks more like an actual Jolly Roger because it lacks the shading; specifically, it looks a lot like the Jolly Roger of Jack Rackham:

Note the lack of shading on the elements on Calico Jack's Jolly Roger? That's why the old flag worked, it was more in line with how Jolly Rogers were historically designed. 

 

This logo looks like someone tried too hard to make the skull and sword on a flag three-dimensional, which kinda defeats the entire point of...well, putting them on a flag. By the nature of flags, the images on them are two-dimensional; and the extra shading kinda loses the proper Jolly Roger look, which doesn't have shading at all;

And honestly, the actual Jolly Roger itself looks like it was pasted on top of a blank flag and just rotated a bit to kind of match the curvature of the flag.

[mafiaman]

16 minutes ago, Ridleylash said:

The difference here is that this looks more like an actual Jolly Roger because it lacks the shading; specifically, it looks a lot like the Jolly Roger of Jack Rackham:

Note the lack of shading on the elements on Calico Jack's Jolly Roger? That's why the old flag worked, it was more in line with how Jolly Rogers were historically designed. 

I'll walk back my comments about white swords.  Yea, I'm back on board with the old logo, save for there being too many black slashes on the flag.  

[FiddySicks]

23 minutes ago, Ridleylash said:

The difference here is that this looks more like an actual Jolly Roger because it lacks the shading; specifically, it looks a lot like the Jolly Roger of Jack Rackham:

Note the lack of shading on the elements on Calico Jack's Jolly Roger? That's why the old flag worked, it was more in line with how Jolly Rogers were historically designed. 

 

This logo looks like someone tried too hard to make the skull and sword on a flag three-dimensional, which kinda defeats the entire point of...well, putting them on a flag. By the nature of flags, the images on them are two-dimensional; and the extra shading kinda loses the proper Jolly Roger look, which doesn't have shading at all;

And honestly, the actual Jolly Roger itself looks like it was pasted on top of a blank flag and just rotated a bit to kind of match the curvature of the flag.

 

This (especially the last part) is exactly why I HATE the current flag logo so much. The old one did have a sense of simplicity to it, but that’s what makes it so great. It conveys so much using so few and simple elements. The way they added the skull and cross swords on a flat surface yet still gave it a sense of motion is brilliant. It also translates really well to just about any medium, which has been an absolute NIGHTMARE with the current logo. The current logo basically took every element that was good about the original flag logo and completely removed them. Then you’re left with this disjointed mess of a logo that is simultaneously overcomplicated while still not conveying enough detail. It looks rigid, lifeless, and frankly, crooked. It’s absolutely maddening to me. It’s so bad that even though it’s supposed to be an “upgrade” to the flag logo, it doesn’t even feel like it’s a logo for the same team any more. 

[daniel75]

Does it bother anyone that the feathers in the nbc logo are too clean? Just 1 of a thousand examples and probably a bad one, but you get my meaning. It’s not supposed to be an illustration, it’s a logo.

[TBGKon]

1 hour ago, DG_ThenNowForever said:

 

 

There was another mock-up with the red and white jerseys, but also a pewter shirt with gold numbers. I think gold numbers on that last jersey would look pretty nice, even if that color isn't otherwise reflected in their brand.

 

I'd also expect the numbers to be more custom than those.

I kinda hope the alternate numbers might look better as white with red accent.  Also agree that the font will be customized a bit from standard block, but not too crazy.

[FinsUp1214]

Swaps Center has a really nice mockup of what a pewter jersey with white numbers could look like:

 

 

I do like how white numbers look and think that’s the best route. I’d also prefer the jersey be worn over white pants, but in any case, this is a really helpful mockup to see how a pewter uniform could look.

[The_Admiral]

That's a whole lot of grey. Not even a very warm grey. Looks pretty bad to me. Embrace color, guys, come on!

[daniel75]

16 minutes ago, FinsUp1214 said:

Swaps Center has a really nice mockup of what a pewter jersey with white numbers could look like:

 

 

I do like how white numbers look and think that’s the best route. I’d also prefer the jersey be worn over white pants, but in any case, this is a really helpful mockup to see how a pewter uniform could look.

With red socks it’s not half bad.

[WSU151]

38 minutes ago, FinsUp1214 said:

Swaps Center has a really nice mockup of what a pewter jersey with white numbers could look like:

 

 

I do like how white numbers look and think that’s the best route. I’d also prefer the jersey be worn over white pants, but in any case, this is a really helpful mockup to see how a pewter uniform could look.

 

That's more anthracite than the pewter color we've been shown. 

[Brian in Boston]

3 hours ago, mafiaman said:

 

I now cannot unsee that the actual sword in the logo is silver while the swords on the flag itself are white.   

That's because, within the context of the logo, the "actual sword" is meant to be... well, an actual sword. By contrast, the swords on the flag are meant to be depictions of bladed weapons, crudely drawn by 17th and 18th century seafaring brigands. As such, the depiction of the swords on the flag isn't meant to perfectly mirror the depiction of the "actual" sword that serves as the impromptu flagstaff.

This is the very reason that I prefer the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' 1997-2013 primary logo. In my opinion, the skull, swords and football depicted on the flag in the primary logo that the Buccaneers introduced in 2014 are far too perfectly polished. So much so that they strike me as being stylistically anachronistic. To my mind, the flag in the Buccaneers' logo of the past six seasons has been devoid of any real stylistic sense of the era in which the team's namesake seafarers plied their trade.

Frankly, I could have lived with the the new version of the sword that serves as the flagstaff and the new flag from the 2014 Buccaneers' logo, so long as the skull, swords and football on said flag had been rendered in a style similar to that of of the 1997-2013 mark.