NFL 2023 Changes

[LogoFan]

3 hours ago, Sport said:

If these had actually made it onto the field I bet they would've lasted two seasons at most before dialing things down. 

 

It reminds me of mid-90's NBA design. 

 

 

The sleeve stripe turning into a cat  and spanning the neck hole is a weird idea made worse by being so clunkily executed. 

 

I remember standing in Sears the day the store got the jerseys in...staring at it and just asking "why" over and over.  What a bad idea.  On the plus side of the lawsuit, it DID stop these monstrosities from seeing the field.  Poor kitty cat looks like his back end was run over by a steamroller.

 

[gosioux76]

17 minutes ago, Kiltman said:

’We wanted the Jaguar to be appearing from the shadows.’

 

Was my favorite line drop from that reveal event. 

Translation (probably): "The gold paint was more expensive, so we only used it on half the helmet."

[Sec19Row53]

55 minutes ago, LogoFan said:

 

 

While I loved the look the Panthers actually put on the field, I've always loved these just as much if not more. 

I know it may be the lighting and age of the picture, but I wonder if the Panthers originally had a different shade of blue in mind than the one they eventually went with.

 

I dunno - given that 'Carolina blue' is a thing, I'm guessing not.

[WSU151]

1 hour ago, gosioux76 said:

Translation (probably): "The gold paint was more expensive, so we only used it on half the helmet."

 

If so, I think we’re talking about a potential difference of $2,000 for all the team’s helmets (combined) and that’s if the team paid for helmets at all. 

[Bathysphere]

1 hour ago, LogoFan said:

 

I remember standing in Sears the day the store got the jerseys in...staring at it and just asking "why" over and over.  What a bad idea.  On the plus side of the lawsuit, it DID stop these monstrosities from seeing the field.  Poor kitty cat looks like his back end was run over by a steamroller.

 

Wait, they made retail versions of these jerseys? Often in my vintage searches, I come across generically-designed jerseys with the lawsuit logo slapped onto them from that period, but I have *never* seen an actual reproduction of the original leaping cat jerseys on the market, in anyones collection, anywhere. I assumed that the only ones that existed were the ones from the original unveiling, probably buried in a box deep in Wayne Weaver’s closet. If there are retail copies out there though, that would be immediate white whale status.

[sky1324]

1 hour ago, Sec19Row53 said:

I dunno - given that 'Carolina blue' is a thing, I'm guessing not.

But, importantly, the shade of blue the Panthers use isn't Carolina Blue - to avoid alienating Duke fans. The shade selected, called "Panthers blue" or "Process Blue" by Pantone, was selected specifically to be in between UNC's powdery Carolina Blue and Duke's royal blue.

[4_tattoos]

OT: that pic of the Panthers almost uniforms has me wondering, when exactly did the shoe companies (Nike, Adidas and even Reebok at one point) invade the sports uniform market? And at what point did they become the elite uniform brands? I remember a time when Russell, Champion, Wilson and Rawlings were on the tags of most uniforms you saw from youth leagues up to the pros.

[WSU151]

27 minutes ago, 4_tattoos said:

OT: that pic of the Panthers almost uniforms has me wondering, when exactly did the shoe companies (Nike, Adidas and even Reebok at one point) invade the sports uniform market? And at what point did they become the elite uniform brands? I remember a time when Russell, Champion, Wilson and Rawlings were on the tags of most uniforms you saw from youth leagues up to the pros.

 

Nike had its beginnings in pro sports in the 80s (I think Edmonton Oilers wore Nike jerseys in the 80s), then a huge push in college sports in early-mid-90s, but its real push didn’t come until 1997, as it saw what Wilson, Champion, Starter, and Russell Athletics were doing. 

[BJ Sands]

10 minutes ago, WSU151 said:

 

Nike had its beginnings in pro sports in the 80s (I think Edmonton Oilers wore Nike jerseys in the 80s), then a huge push in college sports in early-mid-90s, but its real push didn’t come until 1997, as it saw what Wilson, Champion, Starter, and Russell Athletics were doing. 

And because of the success of its shoes, it had the money to invest in uniforms. I wonder if seeing Jordan wear Reebok uniforms during the Barcelona Olympics compelled them to get more involved with uniforms. 

[GriffinM6]

I love how both the Jags and Panthers initially unveiled uniforms with pants colors they wouldn't end up wearing in an actual game until 15+ seasons later (teal for Jax and black for Carolina). 

[Old School Fool]

6 hours ago, BJ Sands said:

And because of the success of its shoes, it had the money to invest in uniforms. I wonder if seeing Jordan wear Reebok uniforms during the Barcelona Olympics compelled them to get more involved with uniforms. 

It was Champion that made the Dream Team jerseys.

 

 

 

[pepis21]

47 minutes ago, Old School Fool said:

It was Champion that made the Dream Team jerseys.

 

True but Reebok made jackets wore on medal ceremony. There was even a little controversy about that: https://www.nytimes.com/1992/08/09/weekinreview/the-world-yes-the-dream-team-romped-but-was-it-worth-it.html

[FiddySicks]

17 hours ago, Bathysphere said:

Wait, they made retail versions of these jerseys? Often in my vintage searches, I come across generically-designed jerseys with the lawsuit logo slapped onto them from that period, but I have *never* seen an actual reproduction of the original leaping cat jerseys on the market, in anyones collection, anywhere. I assumed that the only ones that existed were the ones from the original unveiling, probably buried in a box deep in Wayne Weaver’s closet. If there are retail copies out there though, that would be immediate white whale status.

Yeah I was gonna say I hope that OP picked one or two of them up (At Sears, of all places!), because those are probably worth a pretty penny by now. 

[Bathysphere]

36 minutes ago, FiddySicks said:

Yeah I was gonna say I hope that OP picked one or two of them up (At Sears, of all places!), because those are probably worth a pretty penny by now. 

Hell, I would have even snatched up one of the generic ones by now to wear to games if they weren’t going in the hundreds on eBay. They’ve almost got a fauxback feel to them.

 

And not all of them were generic either. Whoever made this one went to all of the effort to design a jersey that was basically lateral to the one revealed in terms of football jerseys with 90s basketball overdesign sensibilities. Such an insane piece. Would hate it on the field, but would offer up a kidney to anyone I saw walking around with one.

 

[FiddySicks]

I found a New Era 59Fifty with the unused logo at a thrift store behind my old house in Sacramento a few years ago. Paid maybe $15 for it. I’ve seen similar ones for $250 and up on eBay. 

[Silver_Star]

On 3/8/2023 at 3:31 PM, SCMODS said:

Species wise, a Jaguar is a Panther. Kind of funny. 

Yeap. Which is why I call them the Jacksonville Sharks or Fire!!!

[spartacat_12]

On 3/8/2023 at 1:32 PM, Sport said:

If these had actually made it onto the field I bet they would've lasted two seasons at most before dialing things down. 

 

It reminds me of mid-90's NBA design. 

 

 

The sleeve stripe turning into a cat  and spanning the neck hole is a weird idea made worse by being so clunkily executed. 

 

If it were symmetrical and they had the jaguar leaping from the collar to the sleeve on both sides it might have worked. Instead they decided to give the logo the Stretch Armstrong treatment.

[tBBP]

12 minutes ago, spartacat_12 said:

 

If it were symmetrical and they had the jaguar leaping from the collar to the sleeve on both sides it might have worked. Instead they decided to give the logo the Stretch Armstrong treatment.

 

I'm getting some strange Jim Wacker vibes from that one...

 

[BJ Sands]

16 hours ago, Old School Fool said:

It was Champion that made the Dream Team jerseys.

 

 

 

Gah, I’m embarrassed. I meant the warmups. 

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On 3/8/2023 at 4:28 PM, FiddySicks said:

I get Carolina having silver but Jacksonville having it initially has always baffled me. Gold AND silver? Yikes. Very happy they corrected that before the first season.