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As a Sox fan, I like the Bailey move, especially if the Sox go out and acquire another starter.

Sure, right will be a problem, but if Kalish shows flashes of brilliance during spring, I'll be happy giving him the starting job.

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The Bay Area stadiums might be closer as the crow flies but there's the pesky matter of that water.

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If they do get the stadium in San Jose that'll all change I think. They've been absolutely floundering in Oakland as they directly compete with the San Francisco teams for fans. The Giants and A's are the two closest teams in the league as you can actually see both stadiums from one another. San Jose is easily the biggest city in the Bay Area and I believe it would be something like the fifth largest TV market in MLB if you combine the full bay area market. The A's would be able to keep at least 95% of their current fans while gaining a huge amount more. The distance between AT&T Park and the new park in San Jose will still be less than it is between the Baltimore and DC parks. This latest insurgence of youth (that's hard to say with a straight face) could help the A's be competitive immediately when they move to the new park without having to break the bank like Miami did. I still don't think they're going to get the new park though. I'll believe it when I see it.

Yankee Stadium to Citi Field is closer than AT&T Park to Oakland Coliseum.

I'm pretty sure Angel Stadium and Dodger Stadium are closer too.

Nope.

Yankee Staduum to Citi Field is about 9 miles

AT&T Park to the Coluseum is about 16 miles (but it's shorter by ferry)

Angels Stadium to Dodgers Stadium is a good 50 miles.

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Christ here is the goddamn mileage between two city teams:

Yankees to Mets: 10.7 miles

Cubs to White Sox: 10.4 miles

Giants to A's: 10.03 miles

Dodgers to Angels: 31.23 miles

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Trade everyone the second they have any value.. is that the A's plan?

From what I can tell A's are a farm team for the rest of baseball.. they have no interest in being a winning ball club themselves.

It's unreal the amount of talent they have traded over the years. With nothing to show for it.

You sound like one of the sports analysts from Moneyball right now. Beane knows what he's doing. In fact, I might even predict Oakland to finish over .500 this season.

No way Oakland finishes over .500 with the Angels and Rangers in their division. Beane does know what he's doing, but he knows his team is going to get whacked around good in that division this year. He's all in hoping they get that stadium, and he's building a team that will be ready to contend by the time that stadium opens.

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Billy Beane can be the biggest genius in the baseball world, when you're average yearly salary is less than most inner city non profit organizations you're still not going to win. That's what I think a lot of people miss when it comes to Billy Beane. He has ridiculously little to work with. The fact that he's kept this team out of the realms of the worst teams in history is amazing in itself. Even if San Jose isn't a perfect plan, it's still better than the dumpster fire they have in Oakland. Not sure if Beane's style will translate when the cash starts to flow in if they get their new park, which it will in ways never even fathomed in Oakland, but it's a decent start IMO.

But I've always been stupidly optimistic about the A's, so take that for what it's worth.

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With this Bailey trade, that eliminates another spot for Ryan Madson, who's pretty much sitting out there with no place to go...

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We'll have to wait and see how Bailey performs in 2012, but am I the only one that thinks the Red Sox got a steal with this trade? Yes, it creates a hole in right field, but their bullpen woes are much more concerning than their starting line-up to me.

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With this Bailey trade, that eliminates another spot for Ryan Madson, who's pretty much sitting out there with no place to go...

I feel pretty bad for him. I'm not sure exactly what went down, but if he really was advised to turn down 4/$44 and is now going to have to come back on a 1-year deal as a set-up guy, then Boras really hosed him. I don't fault the guy one bit for wanting to get what could possibly be the only big pay day of his career by signing somewhere as a closer, and I hope that he's welcomed back with open arms if that's what happens. I really hope that's what happens.

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We'll have to wait and see how Bailey performs in 2012, but am I the only one that thinks the Red Sox got a steal with this trade? Yes, it creates a hole in right field, but their bullpen woes are much more concerning than their starting line-up to me.

Yeah. Head projects to be a backup 1B and Alcantara projects to be a middle reliever. Not really All-Stars here.

And OverTheMonster has a great article about why a Sweeney/McDonald platoon in right until Kalish is ready isn't such a bad idea: http://www.overthemonster.com/2011/12/29/2667804/right-field-ryan-sweeney-red-sox

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If they do get the stadium in San Jose that'll all change I think. They've been absolutely floundering in Oakland as they directly compete with the San Francisco teams for fans. The Giants and A's are the two closest teams in the league as you can actually see both stadiums from one another. San Jose is easily the biggest city in the Bay Area and I believe it would be something like the fifth largest TV market in MLB if you combine the full bay area market. The A's would be able to keep at least 95% of their current fans while gaining a huge amount more. The distance between AT&T Park and the new park in San Jose will still be less than it is between the Baltimore and DC parks. This latest insurgence of youth (that's hard to say with a straight face) could help the A's be competitive immediately when they move to the new park without having to break the bank like Miami did. I still don't think they're going to get the new park though. I'll believe it when I see it.

Yankee Stadium to Citi Field is closer than AT&T Park to Oakland Coliseum.

I'm pretty sure Angel Stadium and Dodger Stadium are closer too.

Ive been to AT&T many times, and honestly Ive never been able to see Oakland Coliseum from there, but Ive never really looked either.

Roughly 9 miles between Yankee Stadium and Citi Field

15 Between AT&T and Oakland Coliseum

and a whopping 32 between Dodger Stadium and Angel Stadium according to good ole google

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Why is it that we're mere days until 2012 and Prince Fielder is still a free agent? :shrug:

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Cause he wants 25 mil per and nobody with that kind of money has first open.

Oh and although he's young he still weighs too much and will break down quick (most likely)

He's a nice player but even though he's 4 years younger he's not Pujols.

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Why is it that we're mere days until 2012 and Prince Fielder is still a free agent? :shrug:

Im blaming Scott Boras for making everyone wait!

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Why is it that we're mere days until 2012 and Prince Fielder is still a free agent? :shrug:

Im blaming Scott Boras for making everyone wait!

Yeah, this has Scott Boras' negotiating tactics all over it. We probably won't have a legit clue as to where he's going until the day that Prince puts on a jersey.

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White Sox just traded Carlos Quentin to the Padres.

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White Sox just traded Carlos Quentin to the Padres.

I don't really know how good of a fielder Quentin is, but I always picture him as a Leftfielder, which pretty much means the Padres, just the Reds, have no spot for Yonder Alonso either.

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The Blue Jays have reportedly signed Darren Oliver. Apparently Texas didn't even make him an offer.

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The Blue Jays have reportedly signed Darren Oliver. Apparently Texas didn't even make him an offer.

The Jays just reacquired Jason Frasor from the White Sox too, for a couple of prospects.

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