Tampa Bay Buccaneers Getting New Logo, Helmet & Uniforms

[waltere]

Yeah the navy version was miles worse, I think it was the floating white outline around the numbers combined with the random yoke outlining nothing that really elevated it to that next level

[Sport]

When worn with the correct pants (where the pants stripe and the side panel make sense) that actually passed as an NFL uniform.

They still weren't good, but they weren't Bucs level bad. The problem was that the white jersey with either set of pants was a trainwreck and they almost never wore the white pants with the blue jerseys after Bledsoe left.

On my list of bad NFL uniforms they're a solid #3 (Jacksonville is #2 for the helmet alone).

[FiddySicks]

The old Bucs uniforms were pretty good for a typical football uniform look.

The new Bucs uniforms are a step away from tradition, but as a step away from tradition, they are executed pretty well. The colours are vibrant and the red is set off really well against the matte pewter, which looks far better as a colour than the old pewter. The orange elements are a great nod to the Bucs' history and tie in well with the colour scheme. The pants stripe is fantastic. It's sharp and modern and goes well with the rest of the uniform.

Not every pants stripe has to be this:

There is room for innovation in stripe design, and a typical pants striping pattern would not have worked well with the modern design elements. Is the expectation here that teams will stick to basic striping patterns for the rest of eternity? The pants stripe is the most significant upgrade on the uniform and I hope every team that changes it uniforms from here on in doesn't feel bound by traditional striping patterns. They can if they want to be, but it doesn't serve a purpose and it doesn't look better, so why do it?

The new helmet is striking and brilliantly executed. I'm really not sure how that can be lumped in as a poor design element at all. It's bold and it's brilliant. Most of the concepts i've seen to "fix" the new uniforms have retained the oversized logo because it looks great.

As i've said, I don't like the numbers at all and I don't like different logos on each sleeve, but take those two things away and this is a really solid, modern uniform set. Yes, it's moved away from traditional striping patterns etc, but it's done so in a bold and attractive way. The numbers are an absolute miss, and as i've stated, I feel that if they had less ridiculous numbers, this set would have been pretty well received.

Yeah, that great unique new pants stripe that nobody else in the league has ever come close to using, at least not in a long time anyway... Well, except for the Jaguars, who introduced them LAST YEAR.

God man, the more I see these the more I absolutely despise them. They look like absolute clowns.

I HATE THIS STUPID TEAM. You've ruined my fanhood, Tampa!

[El Scorcho]

The old Bucs uniforms were pretty good for a typical football uniform look.

Right. It looked like a football uniform. A professional football uniform. The current set is part Arena League and part Rollerball. Pro football teams should wear pro football uniforms.

What you're basically saying here is that there is no room for any sort of innovation in professional level football uniform design. I can't agree with that at all.

The old Bucs uniforms were pretty good for a typical football uniform look.

The new Bucs uniforms are a step away from tradition, but as a step away from tradition, they are executed pretty well. The colours are vibrant and the red is set off really well against the matte pewter, which looks far better as a colour than the old pewter. The orange elements are a great nod to the Bucs' history and tie in well with the colour scheme. The pants stripe is fantastic. It's sharp and modern and goes well with the rest of the uniform.

Not every pants stripe has to be this:

There is room for innovation in stripe design, and a typical pants striping pattern would not have worked well with the modern design elements. Is the expectation here that teams will stick to basic striping patterns for the rest of eternity? The pants stripe is the most significant upgrade on the uniform and I hope every team that changes it uniforms from here on in doesn't feel bound by traditional striping patterns. They can if they want to be, but it doesn't serve a purpose and it doesn't look better, so why do it?

The new helmet is striking and brilliantly executed. I'm really not sure how that can be lumped in as a poor design element at all. It's bold and it's brilliant. Most of the concepts i've seen to "fix" the new uniforms have retained the oversized logo because it looks great.

As i've said, I don't like the numbers at all and I don't like different logos on each sleeve, but take those two things away and this is a really solid, modern uniform set. Yes, it's moved away from traditional striping patterns etc, but it's done so in a bold and attractive way. The numbers are an absolute miss, and as i've stated, I feel that if they had less ridiculous numbers, this set would have been pretty well received.

Yeah, that great unique new pants stripe that nobody else in the league has ever come close to using, at least not in a long time anyway... Well, except for the Jaguars, who introduced them LAST YEAR.

And the stripes on both sets of pants fit in perfectly well with the design philosophy behind both uniform sets.

Traditional style pants stripes wouldn't have worked well on either of these uniforms.

[Cosmic]

When worn with the correct pants (where the pants stripe and the side panel make sense) that actually passed as an NFL uniform.

They still weren't good, but they weren't Bucs level bad. The problem was that the white jersey with either set of pants was a trainwreck and they almost never wore the white pants with the blue jerseys after Bledsoe left.

On my list of bad NFL uniforms they're a solid #3 (Jacksonville is #2 for the helmet alone).

Royal blue had no business on those uniforms. Ditch the stupid piping, recolor the logo, fix the helmet stripe... those are perfectly fine uniforms. The white jersey was unsalvageable, though. Either way, they look way better now.

[powersurge]

The old Bucs uniforms were pretty good for a typical football uniform look.

The new Bucs uniforms are a step away from tradition, but as a step away from tradition, they are executed pretty well. The colours are vibrant and the red is set off really well against the matte pewter, which looks far better as a colour than the old pewter. The orange elements are a great nod to the Bucs' history and tie in well with the colour scheme. The pants stripe is fantastic. It's sharp and modern and goes well with the rest of the uniform.

Not every pants stripe has to be this:

There is room for innovation in stripe design, and a typical pants striping pattern would not have worked well with the modern design elements. Is the expectation here that teams will stick to basic striping patterns for the rest of eternity? The pants stripe is the most significant upgrade on the uniform and I hope every team that changes it uniforms from here on in doesn't feel bound by traditional striping patterns. They can if they want to be, but it doesn't serve a purpose and it doesn't look better, so why do it?

The new helmet is striking and brilliantly executed. I'm really not sure how that can be lumped in as a poor design element at all. It's bold and it's brilliant. Most of the concepts i've seen to "fix" the new uniforms have retained the oversized logo because it looks great.

As i've said, I don't like the numbers at all and I don't like different logos on each sleeve, but take those two things away and this is a really solid, modern uniform set. Yes, it's moved away from traditional striping patterns etc, but it's done so in a bold and attractive way. The numbers are an absolute miss, and as i've stated, I feel that if they had less ridiculous numbers, this set would have been pretty well received.

Yeah, that great unique new pants stripe that nobody else in the league has ever come close to using, at least not in a long time anyway... Well, except for the Jaguars, who introduced them LAST YEAR.

God man, the more I see these the more I absolutely despise them. They look like absolute clowns.

I HATE THIS STUPID TEAM. You've ruined my fanhood, Tampa!

I still think Tampa's new unis are great and work very well. I suspect that many people are simply reacting to the unique and somewhat odd looking number font. Had they opted for more "regular looking" numbers I don't think the backlash would be that strong. Its not like we haven't seen shoulder yolks before, and its not like the pant stripe is really that drastic of a design element either. I am pretty confident that we've seen much worse and to be honest I bet most people are pretty immune to that type of stripe anyways. Outside of the number reflecting material and the actual shape of the them, I fail to see how this uniform is really that cutting edge and different from the norm. I also don't think this uniform gets enough credit to be honest; they could have used black unnecessarily all over the uniform and made it a complete mess, and yet they didn't. They stuck to the team's unique and instantly recognizable color set and actually (at least to me) brightened up what was kind of getting to be a muddy mess over the years. Just look at the juxtaposition against the Jaguars' look and you will see just how bad THAT look is and how all over the place it comes across; none of it makes sense to me and I just can't see it lasting that long. Again, I fully realize that I'm part of the minority here, but I still conclude that the Bucs have a look that works and has legs. I think it will still look good years from now.

[Sport]

Nope. Not just reacting to the number font. There's like 10 bad decisions in that uniform, plus the number font, and 0 good ones.

And I fail to see the differences between the two uniforms. They were clearly designed by the same people and the only reason I put the Jags above the Bucs is because the colors are more visually pleasing and because they don't have a yoke. That may easily be the worst looking NFL game that's ever been played.

[daniel75]

Almost all nfl teams have similar pant striping. I don't see the big deal that the jags and bucs are similar as well.

[WSU151]

Nope. Not just reacting to the number font. There's like 10 bad decisions in that uniform, plus the number font, and 0 good ones.

And I fail to see the differences between the two uniforms. They were clearly designed by the same people and the only reason I put the Jags above the Bucs is because the colors are more visually pleasing and because they don't have a yoke. That may easily be the worst looking NFL game that's ever been played.

Well I guess you do see one difference. The fact the Bucs don't have a shield on the front would be another and the Jags don't have logos on the sleeves either. So there are a few differences, really.

Almost all nfl teams have similar pant striping. I don't see the big deal that the jags and bucs are similar as well.

Wow that's really nebulous. You could prove anything to be true with that kind of vagueness.

[daniel75]

Nope. Not just reacting to the number font. There's like 10 bad decisions in that uniform, plus the number font, and 0 good ones.

And I fail to see the differences between the two uniforms. They were clearly designed by the same people and the only reason I put the Jags above the Bucs is because the colors are more visually pleasing and because they don't have a yoke. That may easily be the worst looking NFL game that's ever been played.

Well I guess you do see one difference. The fact the Bucs don't have a shield on the front would be another and the Jags don't have logos on the sleeves either. So there are a few differences, really.

Almost all nfl teams have similar pant striping. I don't see the big deal that the jags and bucs are similar as well.

Wow that's really nebulous. You could prove anything to be true with that kind of vagueness.

How is that vague? They all have stripes running down their pants.

[daniel75]

Nope. Not just reacting to the number font. There's like 10 bad decisions in that uniform, plus the number font, and 0 good ones.

And I fail to see the differences between the two uniforms. They were clearly designed by the same people and the only reason I put the Jags above the Bucs is because the colors are more visually pleasing and because they don't have a yoke. That may easily be the worst looking NFL game that's ever been played.

Well I guess you do see one difference. The fact the Bucs don't have a shield on the front would be another and the Jags don't have logos on the sleeves either. So there are a few differences, really.

Almost all nfl teams have similar pant striping. I don't see the big deal that the jags and bucs are similar as well.

Wow that's really nebulous. You could prove anything to be true with that kind of vagueness.

How is that vague? They all have traditional stripes running down their pants.

[hugevolsfan]

I dont think anybody is making a big deal about the Bucs & Jags stripes looking alike it just that some people are saying they are modern when really they are just template color filling.

The Jags & Bucs are very uninspired because nothing really stands out in a good way as good design much less great design.

I am not saying they should have kept the old unis but man I wish we could have seen better creativity.

[oldschoolvikings]

The old Bucs uniforms were pretty good for a typical football uniform look.

Right. It looked like a football uniform. A professional football uniform. The current set is part Arena League and part Rollerball. Pro football teams should wear pro football uniforms.

What you're basically saying here is that there is no room for any sort of innovation in professional level football uniform design. I can't agree with that at all.

Well, no, that's not what he's "basically saying"... that's a huge leap on your part, and it never helps your arguement if you have to resort to putting words in someone's mouth.

Saying that you believe a league has certain standards that you would prefer teams basically adhere to is miles away from "I hate all inovation."

[Sport]

Nope. Not just reacting to the number font. There's like 10 bad decisions in that uniform, plus the number font, and 0 good ones.

And I fail to see the differences between the two uniforms. They were clearly designed by the same people and the only reason I put the Jags above the Bucs is because the colors are more visually pleasing and because they don't have a yoke. That may easily be the worst looking NFL game that's ever been played.

Well I guess you do see one difference. The fact the Bucs don't have a shield on the front would be another and the Jags don't have logos on the sleeves either. So there are a few differences, really.

Yeah I know. Thanks. Obviously there are minor differences, but more or less they're in the same vein designed by the same people.

Should've said "might as well be the same exact template" so people didin't go hung up on the details.

[mad43dog]

How is the current color "actually pewter" when pewter is a metal and now it's matte?

How is the helmet an upgrade with the black spray paint and obnoxiously oversized logo?

How is the shoulder yoke a better design then the last one with the matte pewter shoulders being so close and so different than the super shiny metallic helmets?

I'll take ugly crap in the NFL for 500, Trebek.

[FiddySicks]

I'm gonna do something here that I've yet to do. I'm going to give the Bucs the slightest modicum of credit for ONE thing. This color combination, the brownish pewter and bright red separated by orange, is actually somewhat appealing.

That's the ONE thing the Bucs got sorta right here. Granted, the rest of the uniform is absolute garbage and pales in comparison to the previous set in such an offensive way it basically cancels any of the good out. But, that's not a terrible color combo.

There, I did it. I finally said something kinda positive about this Bucs rebrand. I'm gonna go drink a fifth of Vodka and cry myself to sleep now.

[shaydre1019]

If I'm making a list of the NFL's worst uniforms of all time this is #1 without hesitation.

They're bad, but these are at the top of my list:

Yeah these are my WOAT uniforms. I would get so frustrated looking at them. Worst even than the jags helmets. Just terrible.

[Jezus_Ghoti]

Bills are proof that in a world of so, so many uniform downgrades, occasionally teams get almost everything right and ditch their awful uniforms for true beauty. I love what the Bills currently wear and I believe they sport one of the few uniforms almost everyone on this forum loves.

[Sport]

The Bills are close, but they don't need navy blue in that uniform. It only serves to muddle (hate this overused word, but it's true in this case) the identity. That uniform would look great with either just royal blue or just navy blue, but with both it just kinda looks alright.

Also, down with gray face masks.

[oldschoolvikings]

To continue the Buffajack of this thread...

I've had a few issues with the Bills' current look, myself, up until a few weeks ago. But I had unbelievable seats at the HOF game a month ago, and sat just a few feet behind the Bills' bench. And believe me, in person, that uniform is amazing. The royal blue is gorgeous. IMO there are only two things that need to be done to make that uniform perfect. Change the outlines order of the road numbers so it lines up the the stripes. That's something that works on the blue jerseys (white numbers with red then navy outlines, white stripes with red then navy outlines) but gets mixed up on the white jerseys (royal numbers with red then navy outlines, royal stripes with navy then red outlines). And the biggest need of all, a pair of white socks with stripes that match the stripes on the white jersey, to be worn with the blue pants.