VDizzle12 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 The Cardinals have always felt too close to the Vick-era Falcons. The black helmet just pushes them even closer. Could have been so much better with decent uniforms. Can we stop with the awkward player reactions though? They seem so forced and cheesy. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilgump Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 1 hour ago, NFLfan10 said: A black helmet for the Cardinals?!! What genius and innovation. Haven’t seen anything like this all week long! It is quite odd how many of these have dropped this week out of nowhere. It’s almost like teams are coming up with these as we speak, but meanwhile teams like the Bucs that have wanted throwbacks for years have to wait for “supply chain issues” to resolve. Isn't the problem that the Bucs, eagles, Seahawks didn't have the jerseys in the supply chain in time. So the teams are all mainly all using current alternate jerseys, and then adding a helmet to match. Hence the black eagles just for this year. Wouldn't surprise me to see an action green Seahawks this year before throwbacks next year. 1 The World Basketball Championship, the Davis Cup, Ryder Cup, Iraq: Every day there's further proof that we, as a nation, are not very good at international competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCap Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, lilgump said: Isn't the problem that the Bucs, eagles, Seahawks didn't have the jerseys in the supply chain in time. No, the Eagles have to wait on kelly green because Nike can't get the colour right. I'm not kidding. https://news.sportslogos.net/2022/07/22/eagles-unveil-black-helmet-for-2022-to-be-replaced-with-kelly-green-in-23/football/ Quote The Eagles also announced that the club had initially planned on using a Kelly green throwback-inspired helmet instead of black this season, but due to issues with Nike correctly reproducing the original shade of green for their jerseys, they had to push things back a season. Nike! Cutting edge fabrics and templates! Can't do green! 1 13 1 PotD 26/2/12 1/7/15 2020 BASS Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal Regular Season Champion 2021 BASS NFL Pick'em Regular Season Champion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 1 hour ago, DEAD! said: So a Chicago team wearing an orange helmet and a once Chicago team wearing a black helmet and I am sniffing glue.... Wait, you normally don’t? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBTV Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 That's weird, because when the helmet rule was changed, they said that they couldn't do kelly green jerseys in 2022 because the 2-year-rule still applied so they'd have to wait till 2023 (teams had a limited time to get a 2nd helmet submitted for '22, hence the black.) So now we've had three different stories: 1. league rules preventing any throwback not currently in the guide from debuting till 2023 (this is the story I believe) 2. supply-chain issues (I don't buy it in this case) 3. color matching issues (at least for the Eagles. I also don't buy this, because Nike makes plenty of kelly-green jerseys for other clients.) So now while that article didn't directly quote anyone from the Eagles, assuming it's true, they're directly contradicting both themselves and the league - just like Tampa and at least one other team. 2 "The views expressed here are mine and do not reflect the official opinion of my employer or the organization through which the Internet was accessed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest23 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 28 minutes ago, IceCap said: No, the Eagles have to wait on kelly green because Nike can't get the colour right. I'm not kidding. https://news.sportslogos.net/2022/07/22/eagles-unveil-black-helmet-for-2022-to-be-replaced-with-kelly-green-in-23/football/ Nike! Cutting edge fabrics and templates! Can't do green! Pretty sure the eagles historical kelly green was manufacturer stock color back in the day. I don't see why nike's stock kelly green could not fit the bill. The only issue I could see if they are trying to match current nike kelly fabric to 40 year old russell kelly green where the fabrics are completely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlane33 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 1 hour ago, _RH_ said: For those of you that hate the new Chicago helmets: do you also hate Houston, Cinci, Carolina (if it had silver/white), and New Orleans (if it didn't have Seahawks stripe)? I think it's weird that Cinci's seem to be positively received while Chicago is basically doing the same thing. Maybe the argument is that Chicago has too much history to alter? Or that using white as a base alt is less "out there" than orange? Personally I don't think I like any of them; just trying to understand why the Bengals got a pass. Maybe I could accept Bengals if it still had SOME orange in the helmet. IMO the Bears are a navy team with orange trim and the Bengals are an orange team with black trim. To me Houston and Carolina are less problematic since their schemes are more balanced (navy/red, black/silver/blue). I think there's a couple factors in play here. Bengals away uniform is pretty much their white color rush uniforms with the lack of orange in it. Their new white helmet helps complete the white tiger look it seems they were aiming for. It makes the uniform better. Regardless of everyone's opinion about Chicago's orange jersey, I think most would agree that the orange helmet makes the overall alternate uniform look worse, not better. Then there's the history side of it. Chicago's uniforms are iconic and the orange helmet means the Bears are a step or two away from meddling with their classic home/away uniform. Just my 2 cents but I think people were more receptive of Carolina and Houston because many believe both of those teams need new uniforms. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitboaf Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 At this point, I don't mind if I dislike a helmet. I can live with it, if it is staying within the brand. The Bears are navy and orange. I'm willing to accept that new orange shell–it's in the family. The Eagles entire identity (aside from the wings on the helmet) is a dark bag of crap, but at least they have established that they own black. The Saints own black. The Cardinals own black. The Panthers are more black than teal. But, WTF are the Jets doing? An alt black uni since only 2019? Sorry, you don't qualify. And why copy the Eagles..again? P.S. The action plan for fixing the Cardinals is simple: keep the logo and blow everything else up. I'm ok with the flecked helmet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Comet Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 (edited) It’s one thing if a few teams have alternate helmets. It’s quite another when half the league does. I wanted an end to the one helmet rule, but I didn’t think that it would involve a monkey’s paw curling. That’ll teach me to hope for better things. I’m just wondering how long before the Chiefs break out an all-yellow Color Rush look plus yellow helmet. I’ll call it the Planet Piss look. Edited July 24, 2022 by Red Comet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 There’s a concept floating around the internet that uses the back plumage of the Cardinal head as the helmet decal, and where the bird’s face would normally be is just the opening in the helmet where the player’s face is. It sounds goofy, but damned if I wouldn’t like to see that. It really wouldn’t be all that different from what the Eagles, Rams, and Vikings are currently doing. 5 1 1 On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1409 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 1 hour ago, _RH_ said: For those of you that hate the new Chicago helmets: do you also hate Houston, Cinci, Carolina (if it had silver/white), and New Orleans (if it didn't have Seahawks stripe)? Absolutely 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
63Bulldogs63 Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 1 hour ago, BBTV said: That's weird, because when the helmet rule was changed, they said that they couldn't do kelly green jerseys in 2022 because the 2-year-rule still applied so they'd have to wait till 2023 (teams had a limited time to get a 2nd helmet submitted for '22, hence the black.) So now we've had three different stories: 1. league rules preventing any throwback not currently in the guide from debuting till 2023 (this is the story I believe) 2. supply-chain issues (I don't buy it in this case) 3. color matching issues (at least for the Eagles. I also don't buy this, because Nike makes plenty of kelly-green jerseys for other clients.) So now while that article didn't directly quote anyone from the Eagles, assuming it's true, they're directly contradicting both themselves and the league - just like Tampa and at least one other team. Nike couldn't do the midnight green properly previously. So it's not that far off to think they can't do the kelly properly this time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaGlowin Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 July 2022 will forever go down in infamy as "helmet madness". 5 1 Last updated 5/23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VDizzle12 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Showing up here after any team does anything... 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittSmith_95 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 So… Dare I say I like the Bears helmet? I do think the orange alternates need tweaks, but the helmet itself is clean. I think these will look better in action as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynasty Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 That Cardinals concept actually isn't that bad. Dare I say good? Regarding the logo's face being the opening where the player's face is, it makes more sense in hindsight than having wings sprouting out your head (looking at the Eagles). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gothedistance Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Red Comet said: It’s one thing if a few teams have alternate helmets. It’s quite another when half the league does. Half the league would be 16 out of 32 teams in the league. 13 teams have an alternate this year, need 3 more teams to make it half the league. Many of the helmets are new. But the Cowboys, Falcons, and Patriots aren't anything new. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cujo Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, gothedistance said: Half the league would be 16 out of 32 teams in the league. 13 teams have an alternate this year, need 3 more teams to make it half the league. [MOD EDIT: Not necessary.] Edited July 25, 2022 by officeglenn 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadSeed84 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Just be happy the Lions moved away from black lol. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eszcz21 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, EddieJ1984 said: Just be happy the Lions moved away from black lol. Don't jinx it. You might speak it back into existence. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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