New Browns uni coming 2015

[OnWis97]

First off, there is no way I see this being a good thing...I know a lot of people roll their eyes at this but when you are talking about a team that has done very little to mess with their classic uniforms for so long, this is just going to be plain unnecessary.

However, I am cautiously optimistic that it will not be a total disaster. Let's see what we know:

• Either the shade or the finish of the helmet will change. I can't be happy about this. Basic orange and basic brown are this team's identity. I am hopeful that it's more the finish than the shade and then maybe they'll go back to normal in a few years. (However, if they are going to OSU*-up their helmets, they may as well go brown on the mask...modern helmet with gray mask will look bad; but I am an admitted gray mask hater)
• There will be a pattern in the stripes. I am clinging to hope that the stripes will remain the same width and will not do any tapering, etc. Perhaps the totally unnecessary pattern will be subtle (like the pattern on the Seahawk helmet). Dare to dream.

That's what I hope. And if they do it that way, they may go basic on the jersey/pants. Vikings or even less goofy. Maybe some updated sleeve/shoulder stripes that are more conducive to today's fit without being "kewl." Maybe an unnecessary but non-awful new font (like previous Vikings)? Maybe outlines on the numbers? In short, maybe not Seahawks/Bucs/Jags.

The Browns are historic. They (and their fanbase) love to be "lunch pail." As big of a downgrade as Tampa was, garish uniforms are less fitting for the Browns than the Bucs, a newer team with more modern colors.

Come on Nike. Come on Browns. You can do this. You can mitigate the negative and make it easily reversible as well!

*OSU: Oklahoma State color, Oregon State color, Ohio State pro-combat stripes.

[WSU151]

The Jets' green has been killed by this new uniform and I'm not just talking about the different colors caused by the sweat boxes, though that is a problem. Their green is this gross, muted, almost military green that looks nothing like the rich vibrant green they wore when they first switched back to the Super Bowl 3 uniforms.

Look at Curtis

now look at Geno

That's not an insignificant difference and it shouldn't be acceptable for the Jets or for Nike.

The weird thing is Nike "manufactured" the Jets jerseys in 1999 (thru 2001), a year after they switched to the Super Bowl III unis (Starter logo was on the sleeves in 1998).

[WSU151]

The Jets should consider going to the darker green that Michigan State switched to.

New:

Old:

I think the switch to a darker green was a huge downgrade for Michigan State. The kelly green was a unique look in the Big 10. It's a shame that in the photo above, Nike couldn't make a good kelly green jersey like the Spartans had worn for years.

[shaydre1019]

The Jets' green has been killed by this new uniform and I'm not just talking about the different colors caused by the sweat boxes, though that is a problem. Their green is this gross, muted, almost military green that looks nothing like the rich vibrant green they wore when they first switched back to the Super Bowl 3 uniforms.

Look at Curtis

now look at Geno

That's not an insignificant difference and it shouldn't be acceptable for the Jets or for Nike.

The weird thing is Nike "manufactured" the Jets jerseys in 1999 (thru 2001), a year after they switched to the Super Bowl III unis (Starter logo was on the sleeves in 1998).

Yeah but it was a different ballgame back then. Everyone in the industry was using pretty basic templates with similar mesh and dazzle fabrics. Not the case anymore.

[FiddySicks]

Every picture of the Jets I've seen in this thread, no matter if it's Reebok, Nike, or whoever, one thing is still a consistent factor. The Jets are in MAJOR need of an upgrade. Their old school striping pattern just doesn't work on modern day jerseys. Nearly every thing about their set looks downright archaic to me, and none of it is really memorable.

Do something different, Jets. Your look is WAY beyond stale.

[dennisbergan]

Come on Nike. Come on Browns. You can do this.

Yes, they can.

They have some of the most drab and worn out looking uniforms in sports. They are finally going to do something about it.

Some of you talking about how "historic" the Browns uniforms are, are pretty funny. They aren't historic. They are just OLD. And as with most things, old stuff needs to be thrown to the curb and new stuff brought in to try and improve it.

We'll see if they actually do improve it or not. My guess is the usual suspects here won't like them no matter what they do. If its not classic, its just not good enough. I think they have a CHANCE with brown, a deeper orange and grey to make something really unique and attractive. Hopefully they pull it off. Its long-overdo.

[TheRicSlick]

The Jets should consider going to the darker green that Michigan State switched to.

New:

Old:

I think the switch to a darker green was a huge downgrade for Michigan State. The kelly green was a unique look in the Big 10. It's a shame that in the photo above, Nike couldn't make a good kelly green jersey like the Spartans had worn for years.

Any green in the Big 10 is a unique look. No other team uses green except for MSU.

Back on-topic, the Jets already darkened the green, no need to do it again.

[TheOldRoman]

Come on Nike. Come on Browns. You can do this.

Yes, they can.

They have some of the most drab and worn out looking uniforms in sports. They are finally going to do something about it.

Some of you talking about how "historic" the Browns uniforms are, are pretty funny. They aren't historic. They are just OLD. And as with most things, old stuff needs to be thrown to the curb and new stuff brought in to try and improve it.

We'll see if they actually do improve it or not. My guess is the usual suspects here won't like them no matter what they do. If its not classic, its just not good enough. I think they have a CHANCE with brown, a deeper orange and grey to make something really unique and attractive. Hopefully they pull it off. Its long-overdo.

Bye, Felicia.

[Jungle Jim]

I definitely think there are going to be 1 or 2 aspects of the uniform that are atrocious but like I said, I am cautiously optimistic...

But why must those one or two atrocious aspect be included? Why can't they just produce a nice, clean, classy uniform with no atrociousness?

[CLEstones]

I definitely think there are going to be 1 or 2 aspects of the uniform that are atrocious but like I said, I am cautiously optimistic...

But why must those one or two atrocious aspect be included? Why can't they just produce a nice, clean, classy uniform with no atrociousness?

Because I think there is value in innovation. I think there is vslue thinking outside the box. Even when it comes to aesthetics, even if it doesn't look as good as something basic/less innovative may look.

The fan base is starting to wane but it is still there and is still fairly strong nationally. You can see it when they go on the road. A lot of games you can hear cheering for the Browns louder than the home team. I think the innovation, even if it's poor, gets people talking, gets people to notice. The fan base gets upset, but their fandom stays. The innovation may, just may, garner attention, and garner some support that may not be there. There is substantial value in being first... Even if what you are first for isn't all that great.

It's a stretch I know.

[djam2410]

The example you posted is with good lighting - most of the time it looks like this mess - "50 Shades Of Green"

And can someone tell me WHY they couldn't make the stripe connect like it did in the above CM photo? Instead you get that awkward corner sticking out.

it looks like nike made a patchwork jersey for the jets trying to fit their entire template on the front and stitched that front piece on ..too lazy to adjust the template or make a new one just for them . If you look at it, it kind of looks malformed compared to other jerseys on that template

[guest23]

The example you posted is with good lighting - most of the time it looks like this mess - "50 Shades Of Green"

And can someone tell me WHY they couldn't make the stripe connect like it did in the above CM photo? Instead you get that awkward corner sticking out.

it looks like nike made a patchwork jersey for the jets trying to fit their entire template on the front and stitched that front piece on ..too lazy to adjust the template or make a new one just for them . If you look at it, it kind of looks malformed compared to other jerseys on that template

It's the colts template with contrasting sleeves. Ideally both the jets and colts would look much improved if they adopted the lsu/old miss template.

[NYCdog]

Bumping this for content.

A report from clevelandscene.com is citing Paul Lukas of UniWatch about 2 changes coming to the Browns uniforms, both concerning the helmet:

1. The stripe will have some sort of new texture.

2. There will be a new shade of orange, which will be more like Oklahoma States or Oregon States color.

SOURCE: http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2014/12/02/two-little-changes-coming-to-the-browns-helmets-in-2015-uniform-redesign

Considering the colors of the Browns helmet stripe, I could see Nike using a "faux-leather" texture for the helmet stipe. It would add a vintage look, in a Nike sorta way, if that what they're going for.

Would Nike & the Browns dare pair a "faux-leather" textured helmet stripe and matted brown face mask with a glossy metallic orange shell?

[LEWJ]

The example you posted is with good lighting - most of the time it looks like this mess - "50 Shades Of Green"

And can someone tell me WHY they couldn't make the stripe connect like it did in the above CM photo? Instead you get that awkward corner sticking out.

it looks like nike made a patchwork jersey for the jets trying to fit their entire template on the front and stitched that front piece on ..too lazy to adjust the template or make a new one just for them . If you look at it, it kind of looks malformed compared to other jerseys on that template

It's the colts template with contrasting sleeves. Ideally both the jets and colts would look much improved if they adopted the lsu/old miss template.

Even just inverting the colors of the "sewn-in section" of striping would greatly improve that disaster of a uniform.

Right now it's literally 3 stripes (white-green-white) next to a white sleeve. It makes it stick out like a sore thumb

With a green-white-green striping section, we'd be back to a white stripe and a white sleeve, like it's supposed to be.

... But i agree, the LSU template is much nicer.

[Sport]

The example you posted is with good lighting - most of the time it looks like this mess - "50 Shades Of Green"

And can someone tell me WHY they couldn't make the stripe connect like it did in the above CM photo? Instead you get that awkward corner sticking out.

it looks like nike made a patchwork jersey for the jets trying to fit their entire template on the front and stitched that front piece on ..too lazy to adjust the template or make a new one just for them . If you look at it, it kind of looks malformed compared to other jerseys on that template

It's the colts template with contrasting sleeves. Ideally both the jets and colts would look much improved if they adopted the lsu/old miss template.

Even just inverting the colors of the "sewn-in section" of striping would greatly improve that disaster of a uniform.

Right now it's literally 3 stripes (white-green-white) next to a white sleeve. It makes it stick out like a sore thumb

With a green-white-green striping section, we'd be back to a white stripe and a white sleeve, like it's supposed to be.

... But i agree, the LSU template is much nicer.

That's one solution that I hadn't considered. Good idea.

During the first year the Jets went back to the Namath uniforms Starter managed to get the stripes to wrap completely around and it looked so much better. Nike could figure out a way to make this happen on the modern template if they and the Jets cared to.

[CLEstones]

The stripe wrapping is a result of the fit. Back when Starter and Rebok ran the show, they uniforms were basically like oversize shirts that women sleep in. They were big, they were boxy, they bunched under the arms.

Nike's fit is tighter, closer to the pads, more fitted. With the new modern uniform fits, wrapping sleeve stripes all the way around would look stupid. I would like a child tried to sew the uniforms together.

The only REAL test is how they look on TV or in the stands. If they stripes LOOK like they are wrapping, but don't actually wrap, its not an issue. The only time you can tell is during interviews or close ups. This isn't a Broadway play where you are up close to the actors. Its football. You watch it on TV or from a distance in the stands.

Can I dash a bit of irony on this topic and revert it BACK to the Cleveland Browns.

[hugevolsfan]

I definitely think there are going to be 1 or 2 aspects of the uniform that are atrocious but like I said, I am cautiously optimistic...

But why must those one or two atrocious aspect be included? Why can't they just produce a nice, clean, classy uniform with no atrociousness?

Because I think there is value in innovation. I think there is vslue thinking outside the box. Even when it comes to aesthetics, even if it doesn't look as good as something basic/less innovative may look.

The fan base is starting to wane but it is still there and is still fairly strong nationally. You can see it when they go on the road. A lot of games you can hear cheering for the Browns louder than the home team. I think the innovation, even if it's poor, gets people talking, gets people to notice. The fan base gets upset, but their fandom stays. The innovation may, just may, garner attention, and garner some support that may not be there. There is substantial value in being first... Even if what you are first for isn't all that great.

It's a stretch I know.

There is value in innovation but I do not think it has helped the Jaguars one bit except made them more of the laughing stock of the league.

All the Browns really need to do is keep winning & as much as it pains me to say even if Nike makes them look like a laughing stock they will be alright.

If they continue the records of the past please see the Jags.

[dgthree]

The example you posted is with good lighting - most of the time it looks like this mess - "50 Shades Of Green"

And can someone tell me WHY they couldn't make the stripe connect like it did in the above CM photo? Instead you get that awkward corner sticking out.

it looks like nike made a patchwork jersey for the jets trying to fit their entire template on the front and stitched that front piece on ..too lazy to adjust the template or make a new one just for them . If you look at it, it kind of looks malformed compared to other jerseys on that template

It's the colts template with contrasting sleeves. Ideally both the jets and colts would look much improved if they adopted the lsu/old miss template.

Even just inverting the colors of the "sewn-in section" of striping would greatly improve that disaster of a uniform.

Right now it's literally 3 stripes (white-green-white) next to a white sleeve. It makes it stick out like a sore thumb

With a green-white-green striping section, we'd be back to a white stripe and a white sleeve, like it's supposed to be.

... But i agree, the LSU template is much nicer.

To be honest, I think it looks better now than in the previous uniform template when the green stripe was flush with the green part of the jersey.

side note: love the material -- the shine -- and the color on the old uniform better than the dull, matte green they are using now.

[goforbroke]

The example you posted is with good lighting - most of the time it looks like this mess - "50 Shades Of Green"

And can someone tell me WHY they couldn't make the stripe connect like it did in the above CM photo? Instead you get that awkward corner sticking out.

it looks like nike made a patchwork jersey for the jets trying to fit their entire template on the front and stitched that front piece on ..too lazy to adjust the template or make a new one just for them . If you look at it, it kind of looks malformed compared to other jerseys on that template

It's the colts template with contrasting sleeves. Ideally both the jets and colts would look much improved if they adopted the lsu/old miss template.

Even just inverting the colors of the "sewn-in section" of striping would greatly improve that disaster of a uniform.

Right now it's literally 3 stripes (white-green-white) next to a white sleeve. It makes it stick out like a sore thumb

With a green-white-green striping section, we'd be back to a white stripe and a white sleeve, like it's supposed to be.

... But i agree, the LSU template is much nicer.

To be honest, I think it looks better now than in the previous uniform template when the green stripe was flush with the green part of the jersey.

side note: love the material -- the shine -- and the color on the old uniform better than the dull, matte green they are using now.

Took me forever to figure out exactly what the difference was and why it looked so weird now .. thanks for posting these side by side.

Now looking at it I see that the new version is 3 strips -white-green-white - next to a white sleeve. Old version is 2 stripes -- white-green -- next to white sleeve.

I disagree with you though I think the old version with favre there was a better look. It didnt create that weird corner. And if the underarm portion of the sleeve was white instead of green (as seen in Geno's interception throwing arm) it would be perfect. And if they went back to the old green color. The new one looks like a dull olive... should a be a forest

[TheOldRoman]

The example you posted is with good lighting - most of the time it looks like this mess - "50 Shades Of Green"

And can someone tell me WHY they couldn't make the stripe connect like it did in the above CM photo? Instead you get that awkward corner sticking out.

it looks like nike made a patchwork jersey for the jets trying to fit their entire template on the front and stitched that front piece on ..too lazy to adjust the template or make a new one just for them . If you look at it, it kind of looks malformed compared to other jerseys on that template

It's the colts template with contrasting sleeves. Ideally both the jets and colts would look much improved if they adopted the lsu/old miss template.

Or even better, go to that template and have the Jets swap out the 3-stripe insert of a thinner one with two stripes. In the picture above, the white stripe against the white sleeve is superfluous. Moving the other two stripes over would save some space.

EDIT: Whoops! I was beaten to the punch. Also, Goforbroke, the old Jets jersey DID have three stripes. The white stripe against the sleeves was still there. You just can't see it in that picture.