guest23 1,493 Posted July 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said: because it is infuriating. Not as infuriating as when a 90% member's posts are just copy/pastes of the same thing year-in and year-out, but still infuriating. If it was just equipment, then it'd be required to be a consistent color league wide, like the chinstraps. Teams are free to color their mask as they see fit, and considering it's literally a logo, it cannot be considered 'equipment' by any reasonable person who's open to discuss topics. You like gray masks. We get it. We've gotten it for a decade now. They're no different than anything else - they work sometimes, and they don't work others. Other than chinstraps, what other types equipment have single color restrictions? Based on observation white, black, and team colors are readily accepted colors for varying types of equipment. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLJ 338 Posted July 27, 2020 Didn’t mean to strike a nerve. I just don’t have a problem with the grey masks like I thought I would, and I don’t think any of us would had the 70s Chargers (thanks AgentColon) decided not to make things a little spicy. I have no issue with the shell being the only customizable part of a helmet just purely on room to play with alone. Is there any reason teams can’t mess with the chin straps? I don’t think it’s that far fetched to apply whatever logic they are using for the face masks as well. I’m not dying on this hill, I was just surprised that I didn’t mind it. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BBTV 20,094 Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, guest23 said: Other than chinstraps, what other types equipment have single color restrictions? Based on observation white, black, and team colors are readily accepted colors for varying types of equipment. I'm really not sure if there are any other than the chinstrap and helmet bumpers. In 2020, pretty much everything down to sweatbands is regulated and while technically not part of a uniform since not everyone wears accessories, they need to be team colored. If a team wants an old school look (and it makes sense for them) or simply feels like it looks good, then that's a good enough reason for a gray facemask. But if you want to call it equipment, then every team's should be the same color. I'm tired of every thread being interrupted with this "back in my day everyone wore gray" trolling schtick. 10 minutes ago, JLJ said: Didn’t mean to strike a nerve. I just don’t have a problem with the grey masks like I thought I would, and I don’t think any of us would had the 70s Chargers (thanks AgentColon) decided not to make things a little spicy. I have no issue with the shell being the only customizable part of a helmet just purely on room to play with alone. Is there any reason teams can’t mess with the chin straps? I don’t think it’s that far fetched to apply whatever logic they are using for the face masks as well. I’m not dying on this hill, I was just surprised that I didn’t mind it. The big difference between facemask and chinstrap is that as safety equipment, the chinstrap needs to be instantly identifiable so a ref can see if it's buckled or not, or if the player supidly decided to remove it altogether. Facemasks are obviously also for safety, but they're integrated into the helmet in a way that the player doesn't have to consiously attach them and it can be safely assumed that they're there. To put it a different way (homeowners should understand this): over-the-range microwave = fixture, countertop microwave = removable appliance. Facemask = fixture, chinstrap = removable appliance. That being said, I like the gray for the WTFs. See? I can make a point and then back it up with reasoning and examples that prove it, rather than simply saying "you're wrong things were better in the 70s" and then running away. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
selby56 453 Posted July 27, 2020 The gray facemask lovers vs the gray facemask haters is one helluva rivarly. It has a long history with very passionate fan bases. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BBTV 20,094 Posted July 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, selby56 said: The gray facemask lovers vs the gray facemask haters is one helluva rivarly. It has a long history with very passionate fan bases. Just to be clear - I'm not a gray hater. I'm a "good" lover, and a "bad" hater. Gray can fall under both categories. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moseph 55 Posted July 27, 2020 It's too bad they had to ruin the helmet this year. It would've looked great if they had kept the stripes and gone with the 'W' on the sides rather than the stupid numbers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
guest23 1,493 Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Moseph said: It's too bad they had to ruin the helmet this year. It would've looked great if they had kept the stripes and gone with the 'W' on the sides rather than the stupid numbers. logoless with stripes would have been a superior option to stripeless with numbers considering they already have sleeve numbers 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldschoolvikings 17,897 Posted July 27, 2020 On 7/26/2020 at 2:10 PM, oldschoolvikings said: The obsolete helmets for the Rams and Chargers, as well as the missing Buccaneers and Ravens, was poking my ocd so here is the updated version, for your viewing pleasure and/or displeasure. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustForFun 234 Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, oldschoolvikings said: as well as the missing Buccaneers Buccaneers are still wrong, though. The flag decal is quite a bit bigger than pictured. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gothamite 24,032 Posted July 27, 2020 2 hours ago, JustForFun said: Buccaneers are still wrong, though. The flag decal is quite a bit bigger than pictured. Buccaneers went back to a normal-sized logo as part of the recent rebrand. They're still using the wrong flag logo, but at least now it's normal-sized. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BBTV 20,094 Posted July 28, 2020 38 minutes ago, Gothamite said: Buccaneers went back to a normal-sized logo as part of the recent rebrand. They're still using the wrong flag logo, but at least now it's normal-sized. It's still oversized, just not as much. Definitely not normal sized. They published the percent change when they unveiled. It's still consideralbly bigger than the original version. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Survival79 2,107 Posted July 28, 2020 I wonder how long it will take the NFL to update the Washington logo slick? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManillaToad 1,176 Posted July 28, 2020 6 hours ago, oldschoolvikings said: The obsolete helmets for the Rams and Chargers, as well as the missing Buccaneers and Ravens, was poking my ocd so here is the updated version, for your viewing pleasure and/or displeasure. Washington's helmet looks GREAT in this lineup. I hope the design is a hit this season and they stick with it 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gothamite 24,032 Posted July 28, 2020 13 hours ago, ManillaToad said: Washington's helmet looks GREAT in this lineup. I hope the design is a hit this season and they stick with it It's a great color combination, complimented particularly well by the gray mask. 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BBTV 20,094 Posted July 28, 2020 might just be the lighting butt I think a darker more throwbacky gray works better. I love the Browns when they did orange/brown/gray. Burgundy (or maroon) and gray is also a great combo, but when you throw in another warm color like fake-gold? It's even better. Tell me this doesn't look good. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slats7 123 Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) MOD EDIT Edited July 28, 2020 by officeglenn Nope. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DG_ThenNowForever 15,870 Posted July 28, 2020 I'm glad you made that big font and bold because that's a good take. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BBTV 20,094 Posted July 28, 2020 I thought that it was made an official rule that unnecessary PL mentions were considered thread derailers and subject to discipline? 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gothamite 24,032 Posted July 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, BringBackTheVet said: Tell me this doesn't look good. I cannot tell a lie. That's gorgeous. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites