San Diego Charger Uni changes?

[Discrim]

I don't think this has been covered in the, wow, 15 pages of posts so far on the topic:

Don't teams have to wait a certain number of seasons before they can introduce an alternate jersey (like in the NBA), or can teams produce an alt at the same time as new home and road uniforms?

I remember the Texans waiting a season before they released their red alt.

But the Falcons' re-design came with both red and black home uniforms that they switched as home and alt after a year.

Or does the NFL not even have a "rule" on the matter?

no, there's no rule against it, hence the Falcons and Chargers were able to introduce three jerseys.

[FiddySicks]

Not at all. I'm not suggesting no numbers at all, nor am I advocating that they do away with the shoulder bolts or TV numbers.

I just dislike any element obviously intended for merchandise (wordmark on the front), and these particular custom numbers look droopy and goofy.

Yeah I didnt mean no numbers, but I thought you meant just the shirt with the white shoulder panels minus all the graphics (Including the bolt), and block numbers. And trust me, on a lot of teams simple really works. Take the Redskins for example. The simple jersey with just the stripes (especially on the white jersey) looks awesome. But personally I dont think id like it as much if it didnt have the wordmark. Thats the one element that ties a bit of the team branding into the jersey and doesnt clutter a classic design. And I think that element works on just about every teams jersey. Honestly, i think the wordmark should be the one thing about NFL unis that should be used through and through (Yeah, even on the packers and bears) because of the fact that it helps to state who a team is, even if it is for merchandising, but doesnt kill a classic look. Its almost like Nicknames on a baseball jersey to me. Every team has it. One argument that could be used though is that some teams who have the logo on the sleeves and whatnot really dont need it, so I see the point there. But I dont think the bolt is enough for the chargers. And one thing I cant stand is the stupid logo under the neck like the Bengals use, so im glad they avoided that mess.

Personally, im on the other side of the spectrum on that one for the Chargers look though. I personally think the jersey is too bare. Id like to see something similar to Beatnik's horsehaed logo on the sleeves, because at this point it looks too unbalanced with all the business on the shoulders and nothing on the arms. I say if your gonna busy up a jersey, at least go all the way with it.

[IronChefShark]

why do people hate the placement of wordmarks of the jerseys? I mean come on, major universities and high schools have been doing it for years and with BIGGER, MORE NOTICEABLE letters.

personally, I think all NFL teams should do it. Yes, even those "sacred cows" known as the Packers, Bears, Colts, Raiders, etc......

[oz615]

why do people hate the placement of wordmarks of the jerseys? I mean come on, major universities and high schools have been doing it for years and with BIGGER, MORE NOTICEABLE letters.

personally, I think all NFL teams should do it. Yes, even those "sacred cows" known as the Packers, Bears, Colts, Raiders, etc......

could be worse,I mean they could've slap the team's logo on the back of the jersey like the Cardinals and Vikings.

[andrewharrington]

That's the ugliest 3 of all time.

[LEWJ]

I actually think these unis look 10x better with the elasticized sleeves (see L. Tomlinson), than they do with the regular sleeves (see P. Rivers).

Just my opinion. I'm REALLY likin this new set. I like how they mixed old and new, great compromise. I also love how they still look like the Chargers. I'm not, however, sold on the white panels behind the bolts on the navy jersey and pants. I do like these better than the last set (right now), because I love the addition of powder blue, I also love the white helmets (with the white pants and navy jersey combo. I love when the pants match the helmet, and the socks match the jersey. I wish the NFL would allow 2 helmets, so that-that can be posible ALL the time.)

Overall:

A- or B+ (depending on which combos)

whew, i can breathe

[Gary]

I actually like them, but the only thing that throws me off is the white helmet, if they would of stuck with the navy blue helmets, navy would have fit better, although i'm not into retro, I am into integrating it into a new look, great job SD

[Coast2CoastAM2006]

not to nit pick, but i am going to miss the blue pants, I am not sold with the bolt in the white stripe. i thought the current blue pants were unique.

All this just to get some powder blue into the uniform? Its not like they are the only team in the NFL with powder blue? To see how it has been done right, see the Titans uniforms.

You can't be serious. The Titans, if anything, showed you how NOT to use powder blue effetively. Or maybe it's just their design. Either way, they're ugly. The Chargers update, like I've said before, is already nice, and great because they avoided the gray facemask craze.

THe only powder blue set i liked from the titans is the white jersey with powder blue pants. Which IMO should be their away set.

[Nick 1733]

[BBTV]

The threes look horrible. Is there seriously no "butt crack" (industry term) to the right of the center bar? The bar is too long too.

The other numbers look like the Rams' numbers f'd the Falcons numbers and this popped out 9 months later.

Not fantastic, but not horrible.

[Sodboy13]

I'm all for team-specific numeral fonts, but God, that 3 is atrocious. It's an upside-down "E".

Also, from the looks of things, the bolt has been moved down on the jerseys modeled by the players, but it's in the exact same spot as last year's jerseys on the replicas. That makes no sense.

[LEWJ]

The other numbers look like the Rams' numbers f'd the Falcons numbers and this popped out 9 months later.

Not fantastic, but not horrible.

I just love that description.

[TruColor]

You've got the '3' wrong, but most of the rest of it looks correct...

...I'll keep checking.

[Nick 1733]

You've got the '3' wrong, but most of the rest of it looks correct...

...I'll keep checking.

Go here and look, that's how I designed the 3. If you have other information that could help, please do share. (you have my email).

http://chargersproshop.com/main_detail.cfm...eplica%20Jersey

[oldschoolvikings]

Ummm... "gray face mask craze"??? Do two teams count as a craze? Cleveland, Indy... am I forgeting someone? (I'm not counting teams that have always worn gray masks as part of this supposed "craze")

[fkaKrock5cent]

i gotta say, i think the powder blue outline on the logo is too much, but still nice. I like the alts. alot thugh!

[slapshot]

From far away, the 3 and 8 look very similar. How many announcers are going to mix them up from the booth?

[Sec19Row53]

why do people hate the placement of wordmarks of the jerseys? I mean come on, major universities and high schools have been doing it for years and with BIGGER, MORE NOTICEABLE letters.

personally, I think all NFL teams should do it. Yes, even those "sacred cows" known as the Packers, Bears, Colts, Raiders, etc......

By all means, if it's good enough for high schools and colleges, it ought to be good enough for the NFL [/sarcasm]

If you can't tell who the jersey belongs to without the damn namelplate on the front, you've done a poor job in branding/marketing yourself.

[TruColor]

Go here and look, that's how I designed the 3. If you have other information that could help, please do share. (you have my email).

Here's what the real 3 should look like:

Ummm... "gray face mask craze"??? Do two teams count as a craze? Cleveland, Indy... am I forgeting someone? (I'm not counting teams that have always worn gray masks as part of this supposed "craze")

NY Giants.

[ReginaCanuck]

I know I'm in the minority, but overall I see this as a downgrade. The powder blue trim against the yellow bolt just isn't aesthetically pleasing. I think the bolt should have been white, then trimmed in powder blue and then yellow.

And although I've always been a fan of the Navy (one of the first teams to get it right), the best of the new set is the powder blue jersey combo.

I agree. this is a total downgrade overall. Those shoulder stripes are flat out stupid looking. The only "upgrade" I see is the white helmet. That would have looked great with the old set. My favorite part of the powder blues was always the helmet. The rest of this "upgrade" is just typical "modernization" bull , i.e. uglier than hell.

There's a reason blue pinstriped suits never go out of style and leisure suits are laughed at today. Just look at the "updated" NFL uniforms vs. the classics. Tell me the Falcons will still be wearing those abominations they call uniforms 10 years from now or the Vikings or the Bengals. Today's "updates" are tomorrow's clown suits. Welcome to the the NFL's modern day version of MLB in the 70's and 80's.

Make it a minority of three. Don't like the overall look and agree it's a downgrade. The bolts are goofy looking except on the helmet, the powder blue in the home and roads doesn't work, the number font is off a display panel on the starship Enterprise, and they've cluttered the back of the helmet to match the cluttered shoulder on the jersey. Thumbs down.

Four. I was in several pages ago saying this was a step backwards. How it's come to pass that NFL teams feel their uniforms will not be recognized unless they have

1) their own custom number font

2) the team name at the collar

3) the team logo either on the sleeve, shoulders, or back

is beyond me.

Another poster brought this up, and I agree completely: this isn't about how the uniforms are going to look on the players, it's about how they're going to look on the knuckleheads who are wearing them (five sizes too large for them) on the street.

And that's a shame...

Maybe it's not a minority after all. I was a big fan of the previous set, and this is a definite downgrade in my eyes.

I don't like the shade of light blue they chose. It's a little too green, and I don't think that's just because it's touching yellow on the uniform. Pantone will settle this soon enough, I'm sure.

Now I'm in the mood for some pics of the old home uni, where white and yellow didn't touch.