Future of NFL "Color Rush"

[BBTV]

I guess I'm the only one that likes the GIANTS helmet.  The ny is just a weak "cute" mark.

 

NY would work too.

[kimball]

9 hours ago, coggs said:

Black sells.  Until it doesn't, teams won't stop trying to use it.

 

Unfortunately true. But, when your rival across the bay (for now) OWNS that color it just doesn't make sense. It's like if the Giants suddenly donned a green alternate. 

[BBTV]

I don't see a lot of black Eagles gear selling.  Obviously I don't know the numbers, but eyeball stats show that it's now working.

[FiddySicks]

1 hour ago, BringBackTheVet said:

I guess I'm the only one that likes the GIANTS helmet.  The ny is just a weak "cute" mark.

 

NY would work too.

 

No, I like it as well. the NY is ok, but the GIANTS script just harkens back to the LT days and games like this (Even though I was/would've been on the Niners side). That look for the Giants was always one of those, "you wont realize how much you miss it till it's gone" looks to me. 

[Ben in LA]

7 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said:

I guess I'm the only one that likes the GIANTS helmet.  The ny is just a weak "cute" mark.

 

NY would work too.

No you're not...I love it as well.  It's the Giants helmet I grew up with (since they debuted it the year of my birth).

[The_Admiral]

I like both, with a slight edge to the ny. Nice to see so many people like the Color Rush uniform and want it to be their primary, not because I think it's a great uniform in and of itself, but it shows what a dumb idea a red jersey is for Big Blue.

 

7 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said:

I guess I'm the only one that likes the GIANTS helmet.  The ny is just a weak "cute" mark.

I get what you're saying, but there is something a little foofy about the top end of the Giants fanbase, don't you agree? I always pick up the vibe of insurance men from Fairfield priding themselves on how gentlemanly Mister Mara's players are. So maybe weak works.

 

GIANTS: HEY MIKE, LONG-TIME LISTENUH, FIRST-TIME CALLUH, DON'T YOU THINK PAWCELLS WOULDA BENCHED E-LOY FUH FROWNING?

ny: 

On 2/2/2013 at 5:47 PM, Gothamite said:

The Yankees and Giants tend to share fanbases because they're the establishment teams with a long history to the early days of their respective sports and have a similarly long tradition of winning. They're elegant, stately, Brahmin.

 

 

[ScubaSteve]

9 hours ago, BringBackTheVet said:

I guess I'm the only one that likes the GIANTS helmet.  The ny is just a weak "cute" mark.

 

NY would work too.

 

2 hours ago, Ben in LA said:

No you're not...I love it as well.  It's the Giants helmet I grew up with (since they debuted it the year of my birth).

 

Put me in this boat as well. Their name is the Giants. Having the full name in caps helps get that point across. Lowercase "ny" doesn't really do it for me

[JayMac]

So now that the Thursday night games are done for the season (I think?), any chance for color rush again next year (assuming the NFL does the NFL thing to keep these mind numbing games around)? Or will the teams be allowed to use parts of the uniforms throughout the season as alternate looks?

[SFGiants58]

The Giants' road uniform is their best uniform. The "ny," no blue, Northwestern stripes, and association with two championship-winning teams make it a really classic look:

 

 

The fact that there's no red on the home jersey, yet no blue on the road jersey is a nice quirk. It evokes the vintage character of the franchise, much in the same way that the Canadiens' mismatched red and white sweaters do in the NHL. "Big blue" still works at home, and the blue helmet gives it a small presence on the road uniform.

 

The LT-era look is generic trash. 

[Ferdinand Cesarano]

10 hours ago, Bucfan56 said:

 

No, I like it as well. the NY is ok, but the GIANTS script just harkens back to the LT days and games like this (Even though I was/would've been on the Niners side). That look for the Giants was always one of those, "you wont realize how much you miss it till it's gone" looks to me. 

 

The problem with the Giants' wordmark as a helmet logo is not the associations; obviously it was worn by great teams and great players.

The problem is the dimensions.  It's too long relative to its height, and so sits terribly awkwardly in the space on the side of a helmet.  It's not a bad wordmark; but it doesn't belong on the helmet.

 

The classic/current ny logo is far superior as a helmet logo in that its height-to-width ratio is perfect for that application.  And the same goes for the 1975 NY logo.  Those logos fit on the helmet so beautifully because they are equally tall and wide, just as are the logos for the Steelers and the Raiders.  The ny and NY logos fit on the helmet in a manner similar to the fit of the Packers', Bears', and 49ers' logos, which are all just a little longer than they are tall.  

 

But a helmet logo that is too long really does not work -- which is why the current Broncos' logo is so much worse than the classic one, and why the new Dolphins logo, with the changed orientation of the dolphin, is a downgrade from the old one.  This dimensional problem should rule out the Giants' wordmark as a helmet logo.

A great helmet logo can also be taller than it is long, such as the Colts' logo and the old Oilers' logo.  And, of course, there are helmets whose designs operate from a different principle, and which do not seek to present a logo in the standard manner, i.e., centred on the helmet, such as the helmets of the Rams, the Eagles, and the Vikings.  But the only helmet that I can think of which gets away with a logo that is much longer than it is tall is the Seahawks.  

Regarding the uniforms: the uniform in which the Giants played last night, which is the same as the uniform in which LT is pictured above (apart from the socks), would be a fine road kit.  While I like the stark simplicity of the classic/current white road jersey, I nevertheless understand the argument that it doesn't go well with the helmet.  However, last night's uniform does not need the "GIANTS" wordmark helmet; it should be paired with the current/classic ny helmet (or, in the ideal world, with the 1975 NY helmet).

[The_Admiral]

2 hours ago, SFGiants58 said:

The Giants' road uniform is their best uniform. The "ny," no blue, Northwestern stripes, and association with two championship-winning teams make it a really classic look:

 

The fact that there's no red on the home jersey, yet no blue on the road jersey is a nice quirk. It evokes the vintage character of the franchise, much in the same way that the Canadiens' mismatched red and white sweaters do in the NHL. "Big blue" still works at home, and the blue helmet gives it a small presence on the road uniform.

 

No, it sucks, it's terrible.

 

 

I'd do this. "Big" elements are blue (front numbers, back numbers, middle stripes) while "small" elements are red (TV numbers, nameplate, front wordmark, outer stripes). Socks are blue because there's no need for red socks though I could be talked into white socks with stripes that match the sleeves just so there's no mistaking them for the Cowboys. 

[AnPheitseog]

1 hour ago, the admiral said:

 

No, it sucks, it's terrible.

 

 

I'd do this. "Big" elements are blue (front numbers, back numbers, middle stripes) while "small" elements are red (TV numbers, nameplate, front wordmark, outer stripes). Socks are blue because there's no need for red socks though I could be talked into white socks with stripes that match the sleeves just so there's no mistaking them for the Cowboys. 

Honestly, I'd swap the blue and red sleeve stripes. 

 

Helmet is red in the middle with blue on the sides. 

 

It does match the pants though, so it isn't bad. 

[The_Admiral]

Yeah, I thought it made more sense to match the stripes on the grey base (which is close to white) than match the helmet. The helmet doesn't match anything.

[hormone]

4 hours ago, jmac11281 said:

So now that the Thursday night games are done for the season (I think?), any chance for color rush again next year (assuming the NFL does the NFL thing to keep these mind numbing games around)? Or will the teams be allowed to use parts of the uniforms throughout the season as alternate looks?

From what I gather, the program will continue. A lot of teams didn't even get to wear theirs. I think the steelers will wear theirs this weekend...which isn't a Thursday. I heard the uniforms are the whole uniform and are not up for mix/match options. I, for one, would like to mix and match by letting the ravens wear purple pants on the road or letting the Seahawks use the bright green, but not all at once.

[Gothamite]

Holy cow, @the admiral - did you just quote my post from four years ago?   

 

I'm glad what I wrote still makes  sense; I've written a whole lot of nonsense in the years before and since, but I stand by the Brahmin statement. 

[RayFinkle]

Why can't my Iggles wear all green once in awhile?? Tired of those black uni's.  I wish to see all green and a green painted endzone, please!!

[dont care]

2 hours ago, RayFinkle said:

Why can't my Iggles wear all green once in awhile?? Tired of those black uni's.  I wish to see all green and a green painted endzone, please!!

That's also known as grass...

[Pauly]

3 hours ago, RayFinkle said:

Why can't my Iggles wear all green once in awhile?? Tired of those black uni's.  I wish to see all green and a green painted endzone, please!!

All green would be a nice choice if only to bump the all black uniform for a game.the eagles black top might look good with kelly green pants.Perhaps.

[Dynasty]

10 hours ago, SFGiants58 said:

The fact that there's no red on the home jersey, yet no blue on the road jersey is a nice quirk. It evokes the vintage character of the franchise, much in the same way that the Canadiens' mismatched red and white sweaters do in the NHL. "Big blue" still works at home, and the blue helmet gives it a small presence on the road uniform.

 

I prefer uniforms with balance and consistency more than ones that are just simply for the purpose of being "vintage". Just my two cents.

[SFGiants58]

3 minutes ago, Dolphins Dynasty said:

 

I prefer uniforms with balance and consistency more than ones that are just simply for the purpose of being "vintage". Just my two cents.

 

 

As do I. However, when "vintage" is done as well as the Giants do it, I'm willing to give it a pass.

 

8 hours ago, the admiral said:

 

No, it sucks, it's terrible.

 

 

I'd do this. "Big" elements are blue (front numbers, back numbers, middle stripes) while "small" elements are red (TV numbers, nameplate, front wordmark, outer stripes). Socks are blue because there's no need for red socks though I could be talked into white socks with stripes that match the sleeves just so there's no mistaking them for the Cowboys. 

 

 

You know, I do think this may be a better option than the all-red. It still has the vintage charm, while striking an effective balance between blue and red (without either color touching the other, aside from the helmet). Those white socks with stripes would make it downright beautiful.