Patriots Unveil New Uniforms

[Gothamite]

56 minutes ago, DNAsports said:

This is a legitimate question and isn’t meant to be snarky...

 

How is it that the Browns can return to a traditional look and its immediately loved, but the Patriots did it and its seemingly unanimously hated?

 

13 minutes ago, oldschoolvikings said:

Monochrome

 

Bingo.

 

Monochrome sucks enough when it just one option among many.  When it's the only option, it will ruin an otherwise perfect look.

[_DietDrPepper_]

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[infrared41]

10 minutes ago, oldschoolvikings said:

53 minutes ago, DNAsports said:

This is a legitimate question and isn’t meant to be snarky...

 

How is it that the Browns can return to a traditional look and its immediately loved, but the Patriots did it and its seemingly unanimously hated?

 

Is it just not what you were expecting or had hoped for?

 

Monochrome

 

What my esteemed colleague and fellow old guy said. The blue monochrome is my only issue with the new Pats uniforms. Throw some silver or white pants in there with the blue jersey and we have a deal. Just my opinion, but other than all white, monochrome uniforms are awful.  

[SFGiants58]

9 minutes ago, infrared41 said:

 

Don't you think it's a little unfair to paint the entire community with such a broad brush?

 

No, it’s not unfair at all. Look at how many people reject just about every modern design here. When people try to defend modern design trends, they usually wind up being mocked and derided. 

 

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There's a reason that the blue pinstriped suit has been around forever. There's also a reason why you probably aren't wearing a 70's leisure suit or 80's parachute pants right now. Today's "fire" is often tomorrow's punchline. Point being, it isn't entirely about old is good and new is bad. It's about people not signing on for tomorrow's punchline today. In other words, the blue pinstriped suit is always going to work. We know what happened to leisure suits and parachute pants.

 

True, but we have such a narrow window of it. According to most of the people here, all monochrome is bad, all mix-and-match is bad, departures from traditional looks are bad, and anything that’s not a return to and old look or a modernization of something just gets tossed in the “bad bin.”

 

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FWIW, there are quite a few modern designs that I really like and there are quite a few "old-fashioned" designs that I really don't like. What matters most to me is whether or not I think a uniform looks good. Period. This community disagrees with me all the time. I don't care and I never take it personally. 

 

Fair. Still, you have to admit that the board really skews towards “traditional good, modern bad.” It’s oversimplifying things, but not by much.

[VDizzle12]

48 minutes ago, SFGiants58 said:

That’s my biggest problem with the boards. Everything old is good and any new design must be old-fashioned/a modernization for it to have even the slightest chance of the majority liking it. If you even try to voice approval of modern designs or design trends, you’re “put in your place” by the majority.

 

This is how I feel coming here after every unveil.

 

 

I usually feel good about all of these upgrades and then come here and it's getting torn apart. If not torn apart it gets a "Well they are so close but man did they really screw it up by adding [blank]. Good job Nike. This is horrible. Downgrade".

 

I get it. As designers, sports fans and "uniform fans" we all have individual ideas in our head about what teams should look like. Just because it isn't what we wanted, doesn't mean it's trash or the worst thing to ever happen in the world. Out of all the redesigns, so far, every team has upgraded.

[FiddySicks]

Holy :censored:, what a MASSIVE downgrade. And that’s saying quite a lot considering how bad their old unis were. 

 

Mono blue at home, no silver pants, NO TV NUMBERS, downgraded font, and no sliver anywhere but the helmet and the outlines on the numbers. Also, they may have had a history with those shoulder stripes but they ditched them like 30 years ago, so now it just looks like they’re aping off of the Colts style. There isn’t a single thing about this “update” that’s an improvement over the garbage they just left behind. 

 

Honestly, the changes they made are sort of subtle, but this feels like one of the biggest downgrades I’ve seen a team make. They went from looking uniquely bad to generically bad. 

[oldschoolvikings]

11 minutes ago, infrared41 said:

 

Don't you think it's a little unfair to paint the entire community with such a broad brush? There's a reason that the blue pinstriped suit has been around forever. There's also a reason why you probably aren't wearing a 70's leisure suit or 80's parachute pants right now. Today's "fire" is often tomorrow's punchline. Point being, it isn't entirely about old is good and new is bad. It's about people not signing on for tomorrow's punchline today. In other words, the blue pinstriped suit is always going to work. We know what happened to leisure suits and parachute pants.

 

 

 

All of this.

 

You know what's become my least favorite part of uniform reveals?  This nonsense about how "the board hates everything new" as a cheap and easy way to dismiss other people's opinions. 

 

A quick read thru the threads of the other three NFL uniform reveals shows it just isn't true. No one wants to be told that their opinion isn't valid, or even worse, isn't really even theirs. Stop it.  Disagree all you want, that's what we're here for, but trying to tell me my opinion isn't honestly my own makes me want to snap back to belittle your opinion.

[canzman]

16 minutes ago, infrared41 said:

 

Don't you think it's a little unfair to paint the entire community with such a broad brush? There's a reason that the blue pinstriped suit has been around forever. There's also a reason why you probably aren't wearing a 70's leisure suit or 80's parachute pants right now. Today's "fire" is often tomorrow's punchline. Point being, it isn't entirely about old is good and new is bad. It's about people not signing on for tomorrow's punchline today. In other words, the blue pinstriped suit is always going to work. We know what happened to leisure suits and parachute pants.

 

FWIW, there are quite a few modern designs that I really like and there are quite a few "old-fashioned" designs that I really don't like. What matters most to me is whether or not I think a uniform looks good. Period. This community disagrees with me all the time. I don't care and I never take it personally. 

 

To piggy back on this I would say what the Chargers will release tomorrow in not a classic look but I like it. I might be in the minority but I think it looks good. We will see what others think soon enough. As Infrared said not all Classic is good and not all modern is bad. Case in point I think most would agree that the "Classic" Steeler bumble bee was not a good look. Everything is a matter of personal taste and opinion. All design is new at some point and what sticks is what goes town as timeless and what doesn't is a fad.

[8BW14]

17 minutes ago, Unwind said:

Fixed the pants. How difficult was this? (Quick Photoshop using a trackpad, excuse the relative messiness.)

 

This is much better. I’d still make two changes that I think would put this over the top.

1) Add thin blue stripes to either side of the pants stripe and then use that stripe on the shoulders of the white jersey. I think it will provide better color balance on the white jersey.

 

2) Use the blue/red/white/red/blue stripe on the socks with the white pants.

[infrared41]

1 minute ago, oldschoolvikings said:

Disagree all you want, that's what we're here for, but trying to tell me my opinion isn't honestly my own makes me want to snap back to belittle your opinion.

 

I'll see your "all of this" and raise you an "all of that." Well said, my friend. 

[AgentColon2]

ooooof!

 

1. Browns
2. Bucs

3. Colts

4. Pats

5. Falcons

 

TBD: Rams, Chargers

 

[alecgoff]

Fixed the issue of the unnecessary flying Elvis logo on the sleeve (along with a change to silver pants).

 

[Gothamite]

2 minutes ago, oldschoolvikings said:

All of this.

 

You know what's become my least favorite part of uniform reveals?  This nonsense about how "the board hates everything new" as a cheap and easy way to dismiss other people's opinions. 

 

A quick read thru the threads of the other three NFL uniform reveals shows it just isn't true. No one wants to be told that their opinion isn't valid, or even worse, isn't really even theirs. Stop it.  Disagree all you want, that's what we're here for, but trying to tell me my opinion isn't honestly my own makes me want to snap back to belittle your opinion.

 

Damn it, one "like" isn't enough to show support for this.

[kroywen]

56 minutes ago, B-mer said:

still think this was the way these should have gone if silver wasn't going to be as prominent... props to whoever made it.

 

 

These would've been perfect. It's exactly what I was hoping for, and it's a shame they're not going in that direction.

[infrared41]

1 minute ago, canzman said:

All design is new at some point and what sticks is what goes down as timeless and what doesn't is a fad.

 

[Bruhammydude]

Patriots, why did you have to go monochrome? I think they look fine other than that, but come on. Although the double outline on the road numbers doesn't look good, it should be just one red outline. I guess

that you don't need TV numbers at all from this point forward lol

[hawk36]

Horribly designed. So many inconsistencies. Blue pant stripe widths different than the blue jersey’s shoulder stripes, double outlined numerals on white but single outlines on blue, odd choice for shoulder stripe color order on white, I could go on and on. These are actually a huge downgrade for them. Total fail. 

[rmackman]

I don't hate what they did. The idea was there, but it wasn't executed to completion IMO. There's elements of the pre-Flying Elvis and modern-era looks, but they just threw them together.

 

 

I would have liked to see a red alternate like above. The number font would work with this as a semi-throwback (can't use the white helmet). I would have liked to see them keep the silver pants (why make mono-color the primary look), and then also bring in white pants (maybe to go with the red shirts I suggested, but honestly they'd go with any look). I also agree with the above suggestion of moving the numbers to the sleeves and ditching the logo. 

 

 

[Pizzaman7294]

Ugh. All-Blue full time sucks. Only one pair of pants sucks. 

 

I can't believe the Patriots are actually going to wear Houston's pants full time. 

[SFGiants58]

Just now, oldschoolvikings said:

 

All of this.

 

You know what's become my least favorite part of uniform reveals?  This nonsense about how "the board hates everything new" as a cheap and easy way to dismiss other people's opinions. 

 

A quick read thru the threads of the other three NFL uniform reveals shows it just isn't true. No one wants to be told that their opinion isn't valid, or even worse, isn't really even theirs. Stop it.  Disagree all you want, that's what we're here for, but trying to tell me my opinion isn't honestly my own makes me want to snap back to belittle your opinion.

You guys have your opinions which are entirely yours. I’m not trying to dismiss it at all. 
 

Let’s look at those reveal threads, shall we? The Bucs went back to their old look, to a great reception. The Browns went back to mostly their old look, to a great reception. The Falcons reveal something modern, and its hated by many. The Patriots reveal a modern take on a semi-classic design, and its mixed reception.

 

If anybody says their fine with or like monochrome, they get blasted. If they like things like the Nike Dolphins, Jets, or Seahawks, they get blasted. Disagreements are fine, but it’s to the point where if any uniform deviates from it, a big subsection of the board will persecute those who like it. 
 

Who knows, maybe monochrome is on its way to being blue pinstripe suit-ed. 
 

 

You know, hockey week was right when he said this:

 

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The only exception to the "it went from one of the best logos to the worst logos!" is when a team brings back an old look. 

 

Ducks, Blue Jays, Blues, Leafs...think of what everyone says they want from the Panthers, for crying out loud. Nostalgia is what we want, anything new is the worst thing ever.

 

Instead of the big resounding "meh" this logo probably should be getting, we're seeing people act like their limbs were hacked off and eaten by this panther. And just when people are trying to say "hey, the Stars didn't do so badly", we get people saying "How can you say that? It's awful!" which only helps my point. Not mediocre, not "not what I wanted", just terrible terrible terrible.

Context. I’m just venting at this point, but I think it’s important to get it out there. Please be more tolerant of modern looks and the people who like them.