Sodboy13 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 19 minutes ago, M59 said: Unfortunately paywalled, but the Atlantic weighed in on the Nike fiasco today... https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/02/mlb-jerseys-nike-fanatics-quality/677512/ The author posted a gift link, so hopefully it works. It's not a reactive of-the-moment blurb, either; she did her homework and notes a lot of the changes we've seen and chronicled on this site through the decades. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/02/mlb-jerseys-nike-fanatics-quality/677512/?gift=mZJJfvLLK2-N-97mYsXvt4twDIXd7nmg5h3ZxsW1ZBI&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share 4 1 Quote On 1/25/2013 at 1:53 PM, 'Atom said: For all the bird de lis haters I think the bird de lis isnt supposed to be a pelican and a fleur de lis I think its just a fleur de lis with a pelicans head. Thats what it looks like to me. Also the flair around the tip of the beak is just flair that fleur de lis have sometimes source I am from NOLA. PotD: 10/19/07, 08/25/08, 07/22/10, 08/13/10, 04/15/11, 05/19/11, 01/02/12, and 01/05/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaydre1019 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 10 minutes ago, Silent Wind of Doom said: I should not be able to know the type and color of underwear of my pitcher. God forbid somebody is trying to get out of a major slump.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigFiz21 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 hours ago, TrueYankee26 said: New jersey patch for KC I guess the Rangers are investing their money in all the right places if they're not interested in a patch or didn't jump at QuikTrip for a deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Better hope the players don’t have any Paul Pierce moments 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis2051 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 19 minutes ago, TheBigFiz21 said: I guess the Rangers are investing their money in all the right places if they're not interested in a patch or didn't jump at QuikTrip for a deal. Holding out for Buc-ee's 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrutigerAero Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I wish there was at least a rule that the ads have to be in a color scheme that works for the team. Royals shouldn't be wearing red. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aawagner011 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 28 minutes ago, FrutigerAero said: I wish there was at least a rule that the ads have to be in a color scheme that works for the team. Royals shouldn't be wearing red. It’s interesting to watch this play out in MLB compared to other leagues such as MLS. It doesn’t happen all the time, but generally, the vast majority of soccer shirts feature an advertisement that matches the kit’s color scheme. Take a look at the 2024 MLS designs. Maybe that’s in exchange for larger real estate, whereas in baseball, the ad is relegated to a smaller patch. Not that it’s justified, but I could see how the brand would want their logo in full color for maximum recognition since it’s rendered at a smaller scale. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMU Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Live look into the Fanatics factory as they prepare the fabric: 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrutigerAero Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 7 minutes ago, aawagner011 said: It’s interesting to watch this play out in MLB compared to other leagues such as MLS. It doesn’t happen all the time, but generally, the vast majority of soccer shirts feature an advertisement that matches the kit’s color scheme. Take a look at the 2024 MLS designs. Maybe that’s in exchange for larger real estate, whereas in baseball, the ad is relegated to a smaller patch. Not that it’s justified, but I could see how the brand would want their logo in full color for maximum recognition since it’s rendered at a smaller scale. Yeah and most of those look okay, despite the logos. For example, one ad patch I think looks okay is the SF Giant's Cruise patch because it looks like they thought about how it would look on the uniform. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaGlowin Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I wonder how well those see-through pants hold up to sliding. 1 Quote Last updated 5/23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJWalker45 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 51 minutes ago, aawagner011 said: It’s interesting to watch this play out in MLB compared to other leagues such as MLS. It doesn’t happen all the time, but generally, the vast majority of soccer shirts feature an advertisement that matches the kit’s color scheme. Take a look at the 2024 MLS designs. Maybe that’s in exchange for larger real estate, whereas in baseball, the ad is relegated to a smaller patch. Not that it’s justified, but I could see how the brand would want their logo in full color for maximum recognition since it’s rendered at a smaller scale. A better comparison would be the sleeve logos. Even those for the most part match the colors of the uniform. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiddySicks Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 The most mind blowing thing about all of this to me is the price. I remember buying my first authentic jersey (Eric Byrnes A’s green alt), and it was like $225. I thought that was outrageous! Straight up dumb money. But I really wanted it so I saved up. But $450? That’s almost to my limit for things like video game consoles I just can’t wrap my head around spending nearly $500 for a shirt. And I’m the dummy who’s spent what I consider to be “dumb money” on an embarrassing number of jerseys. 6 Quote On 11/19/2012 at 7:23 PM, oldschoolvikings said: She’s still half convinced “Chris Creamer” is a porn site.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicate Genius Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Jarrod Saltalamacchia has been dethroned. 2 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schlim Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 6 hours ago, TrueYankee26 said: New jersey patch for KC Improve literacy rates via a sleeve patch? That's not even how you spell 'cutie'. Also, the third proposed downtown location for the Royals is plopped down in an existing neighborhood of local businesses, which are now banding together to stop it. They better get part owner (1%) Patrick Mahomes II on the streets to get their sales tax extended. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebuy Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Fanatics and Nike are a disaster. Advertisements on the jersey are a disaster. This isn't European soccer. The uniform should be sacred and free from external commercial promotions. Fans should simply boycott the advertisers. As a Phillies fan it's extremely disappointing that the chain stitching is gone. The cool numbers on the sleeves that was entirely unique to the Phillies are gone. We are getting a totally unnecessary city connect jersey. It's very disappointing that the organization did nothing to stand for the integrity of the jersey. Seeing the other changes is awful too. You don't think of cool quirks like the trim on the Braves belt loop until they're gone. What other company can take on the MLB market and save us from Fanatics and Nike? Under Armour? There is so much less competition in this space. In the 90s, you could theoretically have Champion, Wilson, Russell, Nike, Majestic, Reebok, Adidas among others compete in this space. 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJD7 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 9 hours ago, aawagner011 said: Hard to see, but looks like the Braves have the perforated numbers on their alternates. If you zoom in, you can see them on the bottom left part of Acuna’s “3.” This comes after their home whites were shown without the perforations at a fan fest event. A few other clubs have shown similar situations (such as the Mets, no perforations on their pinstripes but they have them on their blue jerseys). My guess is the ball clubs didn’t love how pronounced the white poked through against the dark numbers, but were willing to concede to Nike on alternates where they may not be as visible (for example, the Braves blue jersey bleeding through the red numbers is not very noticeable). At least this appears to be a choice and not mandated by Nike. I'm starting to suspect, but can't yet confirm, that the perforated numbers are in fact league-wide. Even teams that I originally thought may have opted out of the perforated numbers based on the early renderings, appear to have them upon closer inspection in Spring Training. The main teams I'm still looking to see if they have perforated numbers are the Yankees, O's, Mets, Cards, & Phillies. I wonder if the Braves maybe just applied the old numbers to the new template for their FanFest, maybe because completely authentic new white jerseys were not yet ready. 9 hours ago, aawagner011 said: Paul mentioned this on Uni Watch today, but man, the slightly see through pants need a total rework. You can see the jersey material under the pants, including the silhouette, jock tags, and pinstripes. This is not the move, Nike! Apparently the see through pants are not a new thing, though. Here are some images from the Majestic era (check out #70 and #63) where you can see the jocktags just as easily as the 2024 Nike pants. The pants were pretty see-through on the old template, as well, but yeah, this doesn't make things any better. 3 hours ago, Delicate Genius said: Jarrod Saltalamacchia has been dethroned. If anything, I think this proves the need for the smaller player names. There's no chance his name would have fit in the previous style, given that Saltalamacchia's barely did. Don't get me wrong, pretty much every other aspect of the new Nike template is an immense downgrade in my eyes (at least for authentics), but the smaller player names seems to be a reasonable move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJ Sands Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 The new Yankee jersey popped up on Reddit. Assuming this is legit, I don’t love it as much as I expected. The wordmark should be bolder. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 11 hours ago, FiddySicks said: The most mind blowing thing about all of this to me is the price. I remember buying my first authentic jersey (Eric Byrnes A’s green alt), and it was like $225. I thought that was outrageous! Straight up dumb money. But I really wanted it so I saved up. But $450? That’s almost to my limit for things like video game consoles I just can’t wrap my head around spending nearly $500 for a shirt. And I’m the dummy who’s spent what I consider to be “dumb money” on an embarrassing number of jerseys. To be fair video game consoles cost 250 back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old School Fool Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 hours ago, dont care said: To be fair video game consoles cost 250 back then. It's funny how video games today cost the exact same as they did throughout the 80's and 90's. It somehow has avoided inflation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont care Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 12 minutes ago, Old School Fool said: It's funny how video games today cost the exact same as they did throughout the 80's and 90's. It somehow has avoided inflation. That’s true, outside of the special editions and such every game starts at $60. I don’t remember what they cost in the 90’s but I know they cost the same in 2000 when I got my first PlayStation. Now I know at the end of the day it’s just a piece of plastic with some data etched onto it. But the amount of development for games has gone up tenfold. Add in employee costs rising you would think they would be losing money if it wasn’t for microtransactions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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